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Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
#61
RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
(April 14, 2017 at 7:05 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(April 14, 2017 at 5:36 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they ARE a christian... "by their fruit ye shall know them".

Doesn't Trump claim to be a christian yet pronounced second Corinthians as "two" Corinthians... Thinking

bold mine

Yeah, it does, You claim it, you own it, they are all fruit. 

What you have here is your christian sliding scale.

Really? What happened to needing evidence to support a claim?

(April 14, 2017 at 7:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(April 14, 2017 at 7:22 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The word "christian" literally means to be like Christ.

No..it doesn't, lol.  I guess you dodged a bullet on that one though.  You wouldn't exactly pass the litmus test.  Christians are people who believe in christ.  That, Huggy, is what the word means - literally and practically.  That's all it means.  Everything else is up for grabs.

Rolleyes

Christ -ian

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ian

Suffix
-ian
  1. (as an adjective) From, related to, or like.
  2. (as a noun) One from, belonging to, relating to, or like.
You were saying?
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#62
RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
(April 14, 2017 at 7:05 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(April 12, 2017 at 12:16 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Always funny when people want to act offended that a guy who was on this planet solely to get killed, got himself killed.

Are we back to no free will in the presence of an omniscient god?

(April 14, 2017 at 5:36 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they ARE a christian... "by their fruit ye shall know them".

Doesn't Trump claim to be a christian yet pronounced second Corinthians as "two" Corinthians... Thinking

bold mine

Yeah, it does, You claim it, you own it, they are all fruit. 

What you have here is your christian sliding scale.

I imagine god must have hardened their hearts, like what he did to the pharaoh, to get the result he wanted. While it doesn't explicitly say that, there is precedence for such a thing. Besides that, if Jesus' death was such a good thing, then why the anger at the people who did you a favor?
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#63
RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
(April 14, 2017 at 7:31 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(April 14, 2017 at 7:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No..it doesn't, lol.  I guess you dodged a bullet on that one though.  You wouldn't exactly pass the litmus test.  Christians are people who believe in christ.  That, Huggy, is what the word means - literally and practically.  That's all it means.  Everything else is up for grabs.

Rolleyes

Christ -ian

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ian

Suffix
-ian
  1. (as an adjective) From, related to, or like.
  2. (as a noun) One from, belonging to, relating to, or like.
You were saying?

That you're a complete idiot, lol.  So I guess a grecian is someone who is like greece?  A magician is someone who is like magic?  A logician is someone who is like logic? L2words.

A christian is a person who believes in christ. You think that some christiuans are bad christians™ but that hardly makes them less christian, and more than a few sects take it as a matter of faith that all men are -consigned- to be bad christians™ by default of their fallen nature. You, yourself, meet the criteria for a bad christian, but do not meet your own "christ-like" nonsense. So, I guess, you can have it whatever way you want it, if it means enough to you to embarass yourself while simultaneously ruling -yourself- out as a True Christian™.
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#64
RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
(April 14, 2017 at 7:31 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(April 14, 2017 at 7:05 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: bold mine

Yeah, it does, You claim it, you own it, they are all fruit. 

What you have here is your christian sliding scale.

Really? What happened to needing evidence to support a claim?

(April 14, 2017 at 7:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No..it doesn't, lol.  I guess you dodged a bullet on that one though.  You wouldn't exactly pass the litmus test.  Christians are people who believe in christ.  That, Huggy, is what the word means - literally and practically.  That's all it means.  Everything else is up for grabs.

Rolleyes

Christ -ian

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ian

Suffix
-ian
  1. (as an adjective) From, related to, or like.
  2. (as a noun) One from, belonging to, relating to, or like.
You were saying?

bold green mine

Thanks.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#65
RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
I think Huggy got hit with allah envy at some point.  Muslim means something cool, christian means something boring and dull, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#66
RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
(April 14, 2017 at 8:03 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(April 14, 2017 at 7:31 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Rolleyes

Christ -ian

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ian

Suffix
-ian
  1. (as an adjective) From, related to, or like.
  2. (as a noun) One from, belonging to, relating to, or like.
You were saying?

That you're a complete idiot, lol.  So I guess a grecian is someone who is like greece?  A magician is someone who is like magic?  A logician is someone who is like logic?  L2words.

Do you think you're arguing against me or the actual definition?

Suffix
-ian
  1. (as an adjective) From, related to, or like.
  2. (as a noun) One from, belonging to, relating to, or like.
  3. (as a noun) Having a certain profession.


What I posted clearly stated that -ian means either FROM, RELATED TO, OR LIKE.

So Grecian would mean someone or somthing that is FROM or RELATED TO greece...

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/grecian

Grecian

adjective

Relating to ancient Greece, especially its architecture.



Is there anything else you need schooling on?
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#67
RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
These people in question who say they are christians, but that you profess are not christians, are then considered liars/false?

Or are they just really bad at being christian? 

If liars, I'm gonna have to give different consideration to the Pew research numbers. Huggy, can you give me some idea/percent of how many out there are false christians?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#68
RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
(April 14, 2017 at 8:08 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(April 14, 2017 at 7:31 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Really? What happened to needing evidence to support a claim?


Rolleyes

Christ -ian

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ian

Suffix
-ian
  1. (as an adjective) From, related to, or like.
  2. (as a noun) One from, belonging to, relating to, or like.
You were saying?

bold green mine

Thanks.

FROM = Geographically

BELONGING TO = Profession.
Quote:Romans 8
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
*emphasis mine*
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/image
image
A person or thing that closely resembles another.
‘he's the image of his father’

Semblance or likeness.
‘made in the image of God’

Therefore 'Christian' means to be like Christ...

(April 14, 2017 at 8:23 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: These people in question who say they are christians, but that you profess are not christians, are then considered liars/false?

Or are they just really bad at being christian? 

If liars, I'm gonna have to give different consideration to the Pew research numbers. Huggy, can you give me some idea/percent of how many out there are false christians?

Are they the image of Christ? if not they aren't Christian, its that simple.

The false christian are the majority.


Quote:Matthew 7
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Did not 2 million Hebrews leave Egypt yet only 2 out of the 2 million entered the promised land?
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#69
RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
(April 14, 2017 at 8:34 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(April 14, 2017 at 8:08 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: bold green mine

Thanks.

FROM = Geographically

BELONGING TO = Profession.
Quote:Romans 8
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
*emphasis mine*
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/image
image
A person or thing that closely resembles another.
‘he's the image of his father’

Semblance or likeness.
‘made in the image of God’

Therefore 'Christian' means to be like Christ...

(April 14, 2017 at 8:23 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: These people in question who say they are christians, but that you profess are not christians, are then considered liars/false?

Or are they just really bad at being christian? 

If liars, I'm gonna have to give different consideration to the Pew research numbers. Huggy, can you give me some idea/percent of how many out there are false christians?

Are they the image of Christ? if not they aren't Christian, its that simple.

The false christian are the majority.


Quote:Matthew 7
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Did not 2 million Hebrews leave Egypt yet only 2 out of the 2 million entered the promised land?

OK, good to know. I'll let SteveII know that his numbers are way off. 

So, is this "false christian" limited to an individual vase by case basis or can we eliminate whole sects?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#70
RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
There's no sword to stupid for Huggy to fall on, it seems.  If all the True Christians™ have suddenly disappeared, somebody ought to inform their next of kin.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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