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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 15, 2017 at 5:48 am
(April 11, 2017 at 7:17 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: I hear many Christians who will fight this no matter how many facts are presented to them about the matter. Hitler believe in God and considered himself a Christian. I don't see why so many fight this concept.
Because it removes on of the most favoured christard arguments from the board, i.e. "atheists are the only people to commit genocide, therefore atheism is the devil". When you drill down into who they are pointing at you find out that Hitler was christian (yes, he waz trying to radically change the religion, but so were Luther, Calvin, Knox, Hus, Henry Tudor and many others yet they are still accorded the label christian), Stalin was orthodox (after a ten year period of anti-theism), Pot was a vicious blend of buddhism and catolocism and the Kims believe(d) themselves gods. About the only one you could argue an atheist was Mao, and even then you're working in murky waters, because he held a lot of orthodox confuscianist beliefs and by the end was well down the "I am your god!" road.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 15, 2017 at 5:59 am
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It's simpler than that. They know and we know that everytime they say "no true christian" they're just talking about a person being a shitty christian. It's churchspeak, not a plot to preserve an argument against atheism. That people who intentionally miscommunicate in churchspeak -also- levy such arguments is coincidental, they've got the dumb..afterall.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 15, 2017 at 6:04 am
(April 12, 2017 at 12:04 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: . . . still, there is a stripe of US Christer that has to be thinking, "If only those mean old Jews hadn't murdered Jesus".
Up until twenty years ago we were still getting those semons at mass and that teaching in RE. Remember the catholic dropping of anti-semitism as dogma is a very recent phenomenon.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 15, 2017 at 6:09 am
(April 14, 2017 at 7:22 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (April 14, 2017 at 5:54 pm)Alex K Wrote: When exactly is someone a Christian though?
When their lifestyle doesn't contradict biblical principals.
The word "christian" literally means to be like Christ. Oh, so there are no Christians, got it.
I don't think that's what it means literally though.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 15, 2017 at 8:16 am
(April 14, 2017 at 3:06 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: (April 14, 2017 at 2:59 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Brian is right. Discounting Wiki because it's Wiki is in need of a name so it can be listed in the logical fallacies.
If he would have worded it as evidence, rather than proof I would have kept my mouth shut. So tired of misusing words for their own bullshit.
Then don't do it. 
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 15, 2017 at 11:31 am
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(April 14, 2017 at 5:36 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they ARE a christian... "by their fruit ye shall know them".
Doesn't Trump claim to be a christian yet pronounced second Corinthians as "two" Corinthians... 
Wow, Huggy I never knew that to be christian you needed to use ordinal numbers instead of cardinal.
You live and learn, don't you?
(April 14, 2017 at 7:22 pm)paulpablo Wrote: In Hitler's case there seems to be at least anecdotal evidence of him showing significant skepticism and signs that his interests point towards scientific scepticism beyond anecdotal evidence.
Hitler was very much anti-science, from his trumpeting of eugenics as a valid discipline to his refusal to allow German scientists use any "jewish" science. Even in education his anti science bent was much in evidence with physical fitness being prioritised at the expense of scientific disciplines.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 15, 2017 at 11:55 am
(April 15, 2017 at 11:31 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: (April 14, 2017 at 5:36 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they ARE a christian... "by their fruit ye shall know them".
Doesn't Trump claim to be a christian yet pronounced second Corinthians as "two" Corinthians...
Wow, Huggy I never knew that to be christian you needed to use ordinal numbers instead of cardinal.
You live and learn, don't you?
(April 14, 2017 at 7:22 pm)paulpablo Wrote: In Hitler's case there seems to be at least anecdotal evidence of him showing significant skepticism and signs that his interests point towards scientific scepticism beyond anecdotal evidence.
Hitler was very much anti-science, from his trumpeting of eugenics as a valid discipline to his refusal to allow German scientists use any "jewish" science. Even in education his anti science bent was much in evidence with physical fitness being prioritised at the expense of scientific disciplines.
I'm not saying Hitler get's scientist of the year award. I'm saying he expressed interests in scientific sceptisism towards religion. Nietzche, Darwinism and evolution as opposed to Adam and Eve.
This doesn't mean all of Hitler's views were scientically proven to be accurate.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 15, 2017 at 12:44 pm
(April 15, 2017 at 11:31 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: (April 14, 2017 at 5:36 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they ARE a christian... "by their fruit ye shall know them".
Doesn't Trump claim to be a christian yet pronounced second Corinthians as "two" Corinthians...
Wow, Huggy I never knew that to be christian you needed to use ordinal numbers instead of cardinal.
You live and learn, don't you?
It's called a tell.
Referring to the second book of Corinthians as "two Corinthians", makes it obvious that he has never actually attended a church, at least not regularly.
I know young children that wouldn't make that kind of mistake.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 15, 2017 at 12:52 pm
I wonder if we could find a christian to tell us that Huggy is not a christian? IRL, I'm fairly certain that I could but doubt they'd come here to validate.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 15, 2017 at 1:02 pm
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