Poverty and Theism

[downbeatplumb]

Apparently Camels may be a mistranslation and it should be rope through the eye of a needle, which makes much more sense.

I always figure camels went easier thru the eye because they didn't have filters.

A Very rough smoke I recall but in flavour a lot like Marlboro.

[brewer]

Poor education results in both poverty and religiousity. Not shocking.

What about all of the educated theists out there, though?  

You can be educated and insecure at the same time.

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Part of a Du'a taught by Imam Reda which is proven in Quran though you don't see because you hate the reality and truth:

 O Allah! They are my place of flight and my help during my hardship, my ease, my well-being, my tribulation, my sleep, my wakefulness, my departure, my residence, my difficulty, my facility, my openness, my secret, my morning, my evening, my movement, my habitation, my secret, and my apparent! O Allah! Through them, disappoint me not of Your favor; cut not my hope from Your mercy; disappoint me not of Your repose; tempt me not with the closure of the doors to provisions and of the ways to them; open for me an easy opening from You; appoint for me a way out from every hardship and a road for every plenty!

Oh please. Prove that your god is real. Better yet, have your god prove it is real. If either of you can't, peddle the fantasy else where.

[LadyForCamus]

There's that preaching again.

Fucking irritating, isn't it?!

[Shell B]

Preaching is one of those things I find hard to define. I mean, if he believes what he's saying and he's not trying to convert you, he's just stating his beliefs. When I was staff, that was a particularly tough "rule" (not even sure it exists anymore) to enforce. This place would be boring without theists, in my opinion, and they're going to have opinions about god. That's just how it is.

[WinterHold]

Preaching is one of those things I find hard to define. I mean, if he believes what he's saying and he's not trying to convert you, he's just stating his beliefs. When I was staff, that was a particularly tough "rule" (not even sure it exists anymore) to enforce. This place would be boring without theists, in my opinion, and they're going to have opinions about god. That's just how it is.

Missionary action get mistaken with the rule you stated.

On the internet, many people preach their faiths; or even political affiliation. There are Chat rooms that offers that; there are also forums and social media accounts that do the same.

It's not just tricky; it's even impossible for some to tell the difference between a preaching account and between a normal one. Excuses like "I want to reconsider my faith- I want to discover other faiths- I want to look into the faith you guys have- or even :I no longer believe; help me..." are common excuses to get into the online community.

Ignorance of the agenda of the preaching membership helps also.

The motivation range from salaries given by groups, to personal service for the cause.

Ban the missionary, and they might return under a different username and invent a different identity. 
Lying is mainly a must for missionaries to practice what they do.

I hate missionaries because I believe they ruined their real environment, and now they want to ruin the internet too. But anonymity and ability to create an account after an account are a reason that gives a hug to this phenomena.

[Brian37]

Ok ... what is your morality? What is right and wrong for you? .... states based on atheism have no morality, only that that which is passed down from past generations past. As time progresses there is no moral law under such a system, only survival of the fittest. And how do you survive by following the strongest. An a strong one with no morals is a killer, as Kim is.

Only Jesus teaches "love", i..e "love your enemies" ... Kim teaches what ... nothing ... no morality ... only serve the strongest.

His teachings are a little more complex than that ... but I think you get my drift.

Did you not read that link, NK is not an atheist state, neither was Stalin's Russia neither was Po Pot or Mao.

This bullshit has been debunked countless time.

I really don't give one shit even if those leaders were. 

Demands of blind loyalty to ANYTHING are what is bad. You don't fucking get to decide for me what leaders I like, nor do you get to paint me as evil because you don't like the fact I don't buy your sky hero claim.

Now if you think all atheists lack morality then why the hell are you using your computer? If you use a PC you are most likely using WINDOWS, a company started by AN ATHEIST Bill Gates. If you use an Apple product, also a company started by an atheist Steve Jobs. If you have ever used Facebook, thank atheist Mark Zuckerburg.

Authoritarian rule mixed with religion is called a theocracy. Authoritarian rule of one party is simply a different form of worship. BOTH ARE BAD.

GROW THE FUCK UP, we are not out to rape your women or barbecue your kittens. The fact that atheists exist wont magically make you suddenly burst into flames. 

I am sorry someone sold you old cold war bullshit, but that is your baggage not ours.

[Flavius]

Preaching is one of those things I find hard to define. I mean, if he believes what he's saying and he's not trying to convert you, he's just stating his beliefs. When I was staff, that was a particularly tough "rule" (not even sure it exists anymore) to enforce. This place would be boring without theists, in my opinion, and they're going to have opinions about god. That's just how it is.

Yea except that he likes to place his faith on all posts known to man, and coincidentally, they all follow the same modal; "my god did this, I am changed."

[Shell B]

I've talked to MK about things other than his faith. I'm pretty sure he popped into our biggest loser thread, even.