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RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
May 31, 2017 at 6:03 am
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(May 29, 2017 at 8:30 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: To the OP.
Can you please define for me what "sexual normalcy" is?
Over the centuries, and longer, we've had people attracted to the same sex, to children, to the elderly, to corpses, to themselves, to animals, and to inanimate objects. Hell, in multiple states in the US bestiality is perfectly legal but there are many conservatives in those states who are against marriage equality.
There is also some evidence that same sex attraction serves an evolutionary niche. If it wasn't natural it wouldn't occur in nature. But it does.
I thinks more about thinking about a healthy sexual society. We can operate under "normal conditions" with many sexual fetishes that have less negative impacts than alcohol does. But thinking that its "normal" or "natural" for sexual abuse and degrading sexual habits is as bad as pushing prudish habits only.
I agree about gay marriages. I don't look at evolution, but if we Look at the number of 'regular marriages" that fail. To point to a gay marriage and claim "that's evil but our failing way is "righteous" seems very silly to me too.
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RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
May 31, 2017 at 4:49 pm
Who cares about sexual fetishes? Homosexuality is not a fetish it's a sexual orientation.
There are men who are attracted to women, and men, or just women or just men. That's sexual orientation. Sexual identity can be totally different, for instance that man could identify as a female. Hell you could have two males who identify as women, in a lesbian relationship with one another.
Humans are given the ability to orient and love however they want by nature. Why then is it so unnatural to let us do so legally so long as it doesn't hurt us or our partner(s)? 2 consenting adults should be the only requisite, IMO.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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May 31, 2017 at 6:47 pm
(May 31, 2017 at 4:49 pm)Luckie Wrote: Who cares about sexual fetishes? Homosexuality is not a fetish it's a sexual orientation.
There are men who are attracted to women, and men, or just women or just men. That's sexual orientation. Sexual identity can be totally different, for instance that man could identify as a female. Hell you could have two males who identify as women, in a lesbian relationship with one another.
Humans are given the ability to orient and love however they want by nature. Why then is it so unnatural to let us do so legally so long as it doesn't hurt us or our partner(s)? 2 consenting adults should be the only requisite, IMO.
two men in a lesbian relationship.
thats about as sick as it comes. No wonder the crazy theist have a fighting chance.
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RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
May 31, 2017 at 9:14 pm
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(May 31, 2017 at 6:47 pm)comet Wrote: two men in a lesbian relationship.
thats about as sick as it comes. No wonder the crazy theist have a fighting chance.
Two men in a lesbian relationship? How many lesbians?
Photos please, or it didn’t happen.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
June 1, 2017 at 5:31 am
(May 31, 2017 at 9:14 pm)Succubus Wrote: (May 31, 2017 at 6:47 pm)comet Wrote: two men in a lesbian relationship.
thats about as sick as it comes. No wonder the crazy theist have a fighting chance.
Two men in a lesbian relationship? How many lesbians?
Photos please, or it didn’t happen.
lmao, if I may steal a phrase ...
AMEN brutha, err sista, err wait a min, sisbro ... ahh forget it ...
I agree.
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RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
June 6, 2017 at 1:06 am
(May 26, 2017 at 9:06 pm)ComradeMeow Wrote: I find it very hard to admit this as of now but ever since I left Islam I have never been able to shake the fact that I absolutely despise atheist's majority opinions. Many atheists are liberal, socially progressive and completely illogical in areas of politics and emotional control. I have done my utmost best to rationalize why this is so and the more I attempt to, the more I desire religion to be in my life. On the other hand I cannot take religion seriously because of its illogical assertion of deities which is even more irrational to me.
Boy oh boy. Your post is a mish mash of vapid assertions without any supporting evidence. For example, homosexuality IS normal in homo sapiens. This has been demonstrated so conclusively that I'm quite frankly surprised to find someone not convinced by the mountain of overweening evidence.
Secondly, marriage is a socio-economic convention with deep historical roots. You dismiss out of hand of hand that same-sex marriage is "logical" without providing any further argument or evidence in support of your claim. Why is homosexuality incompatible with evolution? Why is homosexual marriage illogical?
If you're just going to write a screed of your own opinion without justifying why you believe what you do, why should anyone bother to listen to you or take you seriously?
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RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
June 6, 2017 at 4:42 am
(May 31, 2017 at 6:47 pm)comet Wrote: (May 31, 2017 at 4:49 pm)Luckie Wrote: Who cares about sexual fetishes? Homosexuality is not a fetish it's a sexual orientation.
There are men who are attracted to women, and men, or just women or just men. That's sexual orientation. Sexual identity can be totally different, for instance that man could identify as a female. Hell you could have two males who identify as women, in a lesbian relationship with one another.
Humans are given the ability to orient and love however they want by nature. Why then is it so unnatural to let us do so legally so long as it doesn't hurt us or our partner(s)? 2 consenting adults should be the only requisite, IMO.
two men in a lesbian relationship.
thats about as sick as it comes. No wonder the crazy theist have a fighting chance.
You seem angry. So what the problem in your life that makes you feel the need to be angry and hateful about such trifles?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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June 6, 2017 at 3:37 pm
Trifles are Satan's spew. All that sponge cake, jelly, custard and cream, laying on top of each other in an orgy of fruit and artificial colouring. Mit chocolate sprinkles, yet. They should stick with their own kind and not inflame the passions of the innocent Daily Mail reader.
Now I want a trifle.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
June 6, 2017 at 5:36 pm
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ComradeMeow Wrote:Homeless Nutter Wrote:I'm an atheist, who despises morons, like you, who don't understand evolution. There's nothing in evolution theory, that opposed gay rights, for example. Most mammal species display a certain amount of homosexual behaviors and it's not a problem. In fact, it can often be beneficial. Only simpletons and macho-posturing c*nts see evolution as a race to procreate. There are countles examples of animal species, where a large proportion of specimens are unable, or "unwilling" to procreate, yet their "societies" survive and are bettet for it - like social insects, or pack mammals.
Get a f*cking education, dimwit, and stop using pseudo-science to rationalize your bigotry, inherited from your goat-f*cking ancestors... And then suck a d*ck.
I despise atheist like you for showing anger at something non existent.
Pretty sure you're existent.
ComradeMeow Wrote:I only said a mere snippet of my beliefs so they would not be taken as something wholly important. Also you are talking to a guy with enough scholarships to make your head spin, if the current education is this lacking in its ability to teach critical thinking and mandate wider philosophical practices then I am very worried.
. . . I would just assume that you are uneducated though.
Funny, you haven't demonstrated any critical thinking. Here's a tip for forum communication: don't brag about your education, demonstrate it in the quality of your posts.
ComradeMeow Wrote:As for my statement about homosexuality. It is not productive evolutionary nor is a union of homosexual pairs a norm, especially in primates. You do not see any animal on earth using hierarchy to legitimize mating or sexual pairs yet so many atheist think a National Daddy needs to give them permission. That is all I am stating and that alone gives you enough fire to make an idiot out of yourself.
In all your education they never covered the naturalistic fallacy? It does not follow that because something isn't conducive to reproductive success, that no one should do it and no one should be allowed to do it. It does not follow that we should not use the apparatus of government to protect minorities because they aren't following the same traditions as the majority.
ComradeMeow Wrote:Please fuck off you ignorant sack of shit.
That's fair.
ComradeMeow Wrote:Minimalist Wrote:Yeah.... but should you be thrown off a building by towel-wearing barbarians because of it?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/7526...th-penalty
You are talking to a former Hanafi Muslim so I am familiar with how Islam handles homosexuality in accordance to the kutab al-Sittah and I obviously do not agree with it nor do I care with what people do in their bedroom at all unless it involves a girl who looks like an anime loli. <--- humor
But why is this relevant? I am only curious about the variety in atheism. Even in my college life I have experienced some variety in atheism yet every single atheist I encountered was completely despicable or just intellectually dishonest. The only reasonable 'atheists' I ever metal were apatheistic towards religion although clearly expressed no belief in a deity. So this only leaves me puzzled as I have been an atheist for years. Even by the time I left Islam I was already in norm with many opinions held by atheist. I was officially booted out of Muslim groups for showing "love towards kufur."
Don't get me started on Muslims and their obsession with getting rid of love and their lengthy rants on how it is sinful to show kindness to others. You would be begging to socialize with a fundie Christian in a matter of minutes.
Funny how that works when you equate 'reasonable' with 'agrees with me'. Then hardly anyone but you is reasonable, but people who think that way are a dime a dozen.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
June 6, 2017 at 5:39 pm
(June 6, 2017 at 3:37 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Trifles are Satan's spew. All that sponge cake, jelly, custard and cream, laying on top of each other in an orgy of fruit and artificial colouring. Mit chocolate sprinkles, yet. They should stick with their own kind and not inflame the passions of the innocent Daily Mail reader.
Now I want a trifle.
I'm hungry now
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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