Lol the bible is actually ok with pedophilia, proof from passage

[Chad32]

Yeah, we're just not reading it right. There's no way someone could give the bible a proper reading, and come to the conclusion that it's in any way bad.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

So a bunch of murdering thugs sweep  into town, kill all of the males and old women, and take the virgins out for a country bar-b-que and square dance and then sweetly ask them to become their wives.  It might happen that way on one planet in the universe.

No, actually such captives were given 30 days to mourn, then could be taken as a wife. If it didn't work out, the woman had to be freed.

Deut 21
10 “When you go out to war against your enemies, and the Lord your God delivers them into your hand, and you take them captive, 11 and you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and desire her and would take her for your wife, 12 then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and trim her nails. 13 She shall put off the clothes of her captivity, remain in your house, and mourn her father and her mother a full month; after that you may go in to her and be her husband, and she shall be your wife. 14 And it shall be, if you have no delight in her, then you shall set her free, but you certainly shall not sell her for money; you shall not treat her brutally, because you have humbled her.

So it's OK to kill the kid's family and rape her 24/7 for a month and then kick her out of the house.  What a great system.

[Godscreated]

It's not my fault you can't read and understand the Bible. You can't take a couple of verses and define the people or God. Did you tell Boru the same thing.

GC

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I do not see where the Bible says they even take these young girls in marriage or sexually abuse them. You are reading between the lines where there is nothing to be read, you want it to be that way to satisfy your atheist thinking about the Bible. You know what this tells me, you've wished this had happened, shame on you.


 Real it wouldn't be considered rape, maybe in your book. Your judging a people on what you want to believe, you want it to be bad to satisfy your atheist thinking, again shame. I noticed you didn't say anything to Boru.

GC

If they're not taking them to marry or have sex with them, then what are they doing to them? And yeah, I know their culture didn't believe it would be rape. Their culture was ok with a lot of things a modern audience finds despicable. Leading to the conclusion that your god was not much more enlightened than the contemporary beliefs at the time, if at all. We've grown past such things, and past your god.

Yes, I believe that mass killing and kidnapping are wrong. Don't you?

Nah, I just latched onto your post, and missed Boru's. He said something about pedophilia. We don't know the ages of these girls, but whether they were underaged or not would possibly be the least of their trauma.

 Again you want your version to be true, even if it meant the rape of women, now that seems to put you in the same category you're judging others to be.
 You have failed to show that those women were raped. They could have been used as servants, wives and other things, things that do not include rape. You want anyone associated with God to be bad because you are bigoted towards us.
 I guess you're against defending your country, too.

GC

[Astonished]

If they're not taking them to marry or have sex with them, then what are they doing to them? And yeah, I know their culture didn't believe it would be rape. Their culture was ok with a lot of things a modern audience finds despicable. Leading to the conclusion that your god was not much more enlightened than the contemporary beliefs at the time, if at all. We've grown past such things, and past your god.

Yes, I believe that mass killing and kidnapping are wrong. Don't you?

Nah, I just latched onto your post, and missed Boru's. He said something about pedophilia. We don't know the ages of these girls, but whether they were underaged or not would possibly be the least of their trauma.

 Again you want your version to be true, even if it meant the rape of women, now that seems to put you in the same category you're judging others to be.
 You have failed to show that those women were raped. They could have been used as servants, wives and other things, things that do not include rape. You want anyone associated with God to be bad because you are bigoted towards us.
 I guess you're against defending your country, too.

GC

Servants (slaves) and...WIVES? So being forced to marry someone who slaughtered your family isn't a combination of both kidnapping AND rape? You're insane. Absolutely fucking mental. I'm so done with you. You have no goddamn fucking business calling someone else bigoted, you psychotic shitbag.

[Thumpalumpacus]

No, actually such captives were given 30 days to mourn, then could be taken as a wife. If it didn't work out, the woman had to be freed.

Deut 21 [...] if you have no delight in her, then you shall set her free, but you certainly shall not sell her for money; you shall not treat her brutally, because you have humbled her.

[emphasis added -- Thump]

Mischaracterization. You try to paint it as neutral, when your "good" book makes it clear that the only consideration is if the captor is happy with his captive.

"If it didn't work out" would seem to translate as "If Stockholm Syndrome didn't set in". *snort*

[Chad32]

If they're not taking them to marry or have sex with them, then what are they doing to them? And yeah, I know their culture didn't believe it would be rape. Their culture was ok with a lot of things a modern audience finds despicable. Leading to the conclusion that your god was not much more enlightened than the contemporary beliefs at the time, if at all. We've grown past such things, and past your god.

Yes, I believe that mass killing and kidnapping are wrong. Don't you?

Nah, I just latched onto your post, and missed Boru's. He said something about pedophilia. We don't know the ages of these girls, but whether they were underaged or not would possibly be the least of their trauma.

 Again you want your version to be true, even if it meant the rape of women, now that seems to put you in the same category you're judging others to be.
 You have failed to show that those women were raped. They could have been used as servants, wives and other things, things that do not include rape. You want anyone associated with God to be bad because you are bigoted towards us.
 I guess you're against defending your country, too.

GC

Wives that the guy never had sex with? I doubt it. I also doubt that anyone would want to have consensual sex with someone who killed their family and friends. Most people see rape as non consensual sex. what is rape to you? Why do you think it wouldn't count then, when it would count now? Because the people in power didn't consider it rape? That's kind of a flimsy excuse. 

We still have people today who think slavery is ok. If you were kidnapped in one of those countries and enslaved, I doubt you'd just be ok with it because it's their culture, and we shouldn't judge them by our standards.

[Astonished]

 Again you want your version to be true, even if it meant the rape of women, now that seems to put you in the same category you're judging others to be.
 You have failed to show that those women were raped. They could have been used as servants, wives and other things, things that do not include rape. You want anyone associated with God to be bad because you are bigoted towards us.
 I guess you're against defending your country, too.

GC

Wives that the guy never had sex with? I doubt it. I also doubt that anyone would want to have consensual sex with someone who killed their family and friends. Most people see rape as non consensual sex. what is rape to you? Why do you think it wouldn't count then, when it would count now? Because the people in power didn't consider it rape? That's kind of a flimsy excuse. 

We still have people today who think slavery is ok. If you were kidnapped in one of those countries and enslaved, I doubt you'd just be ok with it because it's their culture, and we shouldn't judge them by our standards.

It's because they're not worshipping the god in his head, because that makes everything fine. It's the kind of morality Hitler emulated. Gawd would be so proud of both of them.

[Chad32]

Everyone's got their own version of their god in their head. In this case, because the bible does give some restrictions on what men can do to their kidnap victim, he believes everything else must be fine. The girls soon learned to love and appreciate the guy who killed their immediate family, and hauled her away to his estate to live under his roof, shaved and clipped, lest she be put out on the street with nothing.

[Astonished]

Everyone's got their own version of their god in their head. In this case, because the bible does give some restrictions on what men can do to their kidnap victim, he believes everything else must be fine. The girls soon learned to love and appreciate the guy who killed their immediate family, and hauled her away to his estate to live under his roof, shaved and clipped, lest she be put out on the street with nothing.

Because god is too stupid to come up with an equitable economic system.

[John V]

And nothing in that passage says "if she agrees to become your wife".  The woman has no say and no choice. It only says to not treat her brutally and to not sell her as a slave.  This is because she is no longer a virgin, and therefore damaged goods, and it's because her kidnapper raped her.

If you're applying modern Western values to the era, then you must also recognize that the woman probably wouldn't have had a say and a choice anyway. She probably would have been in a marriage arranged by her parents.

So, in your view, these people gave up their daughters to be raped. Yet, you seemingly disagree with them being punished for that.