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I would like some advise
#51
RE: I would like some advise
Quote:Is recognized that only Spiral Galaxies could support life

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2...to-thrive/


http://www.theskepticsguide.org/best-gal...or-the-win


http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/201...verse.html

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubbl...alaxy.html

And this boys and girls is why you never turn to a creationist for science
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#52
RE: I would like some advise
(July 23, 2017 at 1:56 am)Nymphadora Wrote: If the OP is still following this thread, I just wanted to mention to you that with regards to getting your children the assistance they need in their school:

If they are considered to have a need that falls under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, then under Federal Law, the school (public OR private) MUST make accommodations for the individual needs of your children. The private school cannot, under the law, refuse to provide accommodations that would help your children learn in the Least Restrictive Environment possible. They also must provide an IEP (Individualized Education Plan) for each child, which must get updated on a yearly basis by the IEP team. Parents are to be a part of that IEP team and are to have an equal say in how the IEP is developed for each child.

If this isn't happening, I suggest you look in your local area for either an attorney that specializes in Special Education, or find a Special Education Advocate. Usually your local ARC chapter will have someone to assist you.

Over all I am happy with the accommodations the school allows for my son and others with similar problems.  I have had some trouble with personal who work in the "Reasource" department from time to time but we have been able to work these issues out satisfactorily.

thanks for the advise
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#53
RE: I would like some advise
(July 24, 2017 at 5:32 pm)Dropship Wrote:
(June 15, 2017 at 9:45 pm)Hammok Man Wrote: I am an atheist and have been sense my early 20's....  
...My parents sent me to catholic schools...
I am curious as to if I should flat out tell my oldest (13) I do not believe in god or do I let him arrive to that conclusion on his own?

Well no wonder you became an atheist..Smile
Catholicism is a satanic corrupt perverted "religion" and must have put thousands off Jesus over the centuries!
We need them and any other organised religion like we need a hole in the head!
Remember, Jesus said "You have one teacher, me" (Matt 23:10)

As for your son, if he asks you why you're an atheist, just tell him straight out why you don't like Jesus, and take it from there..Smile


Please do not put words in my mouth.
I never said I don't like Jesus.

I have no feeling either way.

That is like saying because I do not believe in the Easter Bunny (tooth fairy, santa, ect) that I dislike them.

When my son's ask why I am an atheist, I'll tell them that once I saw through the farce, I just could not unsee it.



I really do not want to push them either way.  
My main goal is to guide them to be self sufficient, well adjusted, productive members of society.  
If they believe in god that is fine, if they don't that is fine to.
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#54
RE: I would like some advise
(July 26, 2017 at 7:59 pm)Hammok Man Wrote:
(July 24, 2017 at 5:32 pm)Dropship Wrote: Well no wonder you became an atheist..Smile
Catholicism is a satanic corrupt perverted "religion" and must have put thousands off Jesus over the centuries!
We need them and any other organised religion like we need a hole in the head!
Remember, Jesus said "You have one teacher, me" (Matt 23:10)

As for your son, if he asks you why you're an atheist, just tell him straight out why you don't like Jesus, and take it from there..Smile


Please do not put words in my mouth.
I never said I don't like Jesus.

I have no feeling either way.

That is like saying because I do not believe in the Easter Bunny (tooth fairy, santa, ect) that I dislike them.

When my son's ask why I am an atheist, I'll tell them that once I saw through the farce, I just could not unsee it.



I really do not want to push them either way.  
My main goal is to guide them to be self sufficient, well adjusted, productive members of society.  
If they believe in god that is fine, if they don't that is fine to.

Just be honest about Yahweh with them. The bloodthirsty genocidal psychopath that no one has any business lying to them about. That'll kill the illusion pretty fucking quick and you'll have done nothing but told them the truth. Might scar them for life in the process depending on which stories you read them...
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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#55
RE: I would like some advise
(July 26, 2017 at 8:20 pm)Astonished Wrote:
(July 26, 2017 at 7:59 pm)Hammok Man Wrote: Please do not put words in my mouth.
I never said I don't like Jesus.

I have no feeling either way.

That is like saying because I do not believe in the Easter Bunny (tooth fairy, santa, ect) that I dislike them.

When my son's ask why I am an atheist, I'll tell them that once I saw through the farce, I just could not unsee it.



I really do not want to push them either way.  
My main goal is to guide them to be self sufficient, well adjusted, productive members of society.  
If they believe in god that is fine, if they don't that is fine to.

Just be honest about Yahweh with them. The bloodthirsty genocidal psychopath that no one has any business lying to them about. That'll kill the illusion pretty fucking quick and you'll have done nothing but told them the truth. Might scar them for life in the process depending on which stories you read them...

I don't remember much about Jesus being a bloodthirsty genocidal psychopath. 

I do remember the general theme of the sermon on the mount.

"Do unto others as you would have done unto you."  I don't think Jesus was the first to say this but arguably he is credited with popularizing the idea.

I will agree that people have done some pretty terrible things in his name, but i am not sure that who ever Jesus was is responsible.  My understanding is that there were quite a few messiahs wondering around Israel around 0 AD.

I am of the opinion that the Jesus we know through the gospels is a merger of several people.
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#56
RE: I would like some advise
(July 26, 2017 at 10:04 pm)Hammok Man Wrote: I don't remember much about Jesus being a bloodthirsty genocidal psychopath. 

Jesus is not god, and god is not never-changing?
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#57
RE: I would like some advise
(July 26, 2017 at 10:04 pm)Hammok Man Wrote:
(July 26, 2017 at 8:20 pm)Astonished Wrote: Just be honest about Yahweh with them. The bloodthirsty genocidal psychopath that no one has any business lying to them about. That'll kill the illusion pretty fucking quick and you'll have done nothing but told them the truth. Might scar them for life in the process depending on which stories you read them...

I don't remember much about Jesus being a bloodthirsty genocidal psychopath. 

I do remember the general theme of the sermon on the mount.

"Do unto others as you would have done unto you."  I don't think Jesus was the first to say this but arguably he is credited with popularizing the idea.

I will agree that people have done some pretty terrible things in his name, but i am not sure that who ever Jesus was is responsible.  My understanding is that there were quite a few messiahs wondering around Israel around 0 AD.

I am of the opinion that the Jesus we know through the gospels is a merger of several people.

Ah...I see. They got to you pretty good. Don't make that mistake with your wee ones.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

---

There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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#58
RE: I would like some advise
(July 26, 2017 at 7:59 pm)Hammok Man Wrote:
(July 24, 2017 at 5:32 pm)Dropship Wrote: Well no wonder you became an atheist..Smile
Catholicism is a satanic corrupt perverted "religion" and must have put thousands off Jesus over the centuries!
We need them and any other organised religion like we need a hole in the head!
Remember, Jesus said "You have one teacher, me" (Matt 23:10)

As for your son, if he asks you why you're an atheist, just tell him straight out why you don't like Jesus, and take it from there..Smile


Please do not put words in my mouth.
I never said I don't like Jesus.
I have no feeling either way.
That is like saying because I do not believe in the Easter Bunny (tooth fairy, santa, ect) that I dislike them.
When my son's ask why I am an atheist, I'll tell them that once I saw through the farce, I just could not unsee it.
I really do not want to push them either way.  
My main goal is to guide them to be self sufficient, well adjusted, productive members of society.  
If they believe in god that is fine, if they don't that is fine to.

1- The entire nation of Israel plus the Roman garrison ddn't see the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Santa etc, but they all saw Jesus, spot the difference?..Wink
2- What "farce" are you talking about?
3- Jesus said "don't go along with the stupid ways of the world", so surely he's a great role model for all kids?
4- He also said he was an alien visitor with awesome powers, and scientists estimate there are thousands of alien civilisations in our galaxy alone, you either believe that or you don't..Smile
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#59
RE: I would like some advise
(July 24, 2017 at 6:16 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:Is recognized that only Spiral Galaxies could support life

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2...to-thrive/


http://www.theskepticsguide.org/best-gal...or-the-win


http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/201...verse.html

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubbl...alaxy.html

And this boys and girls is why you never turn to a creationist for science

(July 31, 2017 at 1:20 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(July 24, 2017 at 6:16 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2...to-thrive/


http://www.theskepticsguide.org/best-gal...or-the-win


http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/201...verse.html

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubbl...alaxy.html

And this boys and girls is why you never turn to a creationist for science
 Fair enough, this is new information for me to looked into.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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#60
RE: I would like some advise
(July 26, 2017 at 8:20 pm)Astonished Wrote: Just be honest about Yahweh with them. The bloodthirsty genocidal psychopath that no one has any business lying to them about. That'll kill the illusion pretty fucking quick and you'll have done nothing but told them the truth. Might scar them for life in the process depending on which stories you read them...

We trashed the nazis and japs, but that doesn't mean our war heroes are psychos!
Same with God, he had to bust ancient troublemakers asses, he's not some mushbrained lefty social worker..Smile
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