The undeniable miracle at Fatima

[Amarok]

Keep raving pasta keep raving

[Mr.wizard]

Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. It was worth a good yawn. Now what?

You obviously didn't give it long enough. You are not going to come across big cases on every call. Have them call you when they come across a big case. I personally knew a priest for 25 years where people from all over the country and even in other countries would BEG him to come and help them with paranormal related problems in their homes. These people were desperate and tried everything to get rid of the problems and no one could help them. This priest was world-famous for being one of the few that could actually help these people. Catholic prayers were the cure - proof of the supernatural. Watch episodes of, "A Haunting" - he is portrayed in many of the episodes. That show is the real deal.

Long enough??? Paranormal investigation has been around for centuries and yet they still can't prove a damn thing.

[Amarok]

Ah yes the tired if you didn't see anything you just were not doing it long enough . The great escape hatch of mystics .

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You obviously didn't give it long enough. You are not going to come across big cases on every call. Have them call you when they come across a big case. I personally knew a priest for 25 years where people from all over the country and even in other countries would BEG him to come and help them with paranormal related problems in their homes. These people were desperate and tried everything to get rid of the problems and no one could help them. This priest was world-famous for being one of the few that could actually help these people. Catholic prayers were the cure - proof of the supernatural. Watch episodes of, "A Haunting" - he is portrayed in many of the episodes. That show is the real deal.

Long enough??? Paranormal investigation has been around for centuries and yet they still can't prove a damn thing.

Ah huh a tv paranormal show ......

[bennyboy]

And if you had the thousands of pages of testimonials reviewed by the Catholic Church, would that convince you? Of course not, if you don't believe the 10 pages of testimonials gathered by the author in his book I mentioned, then presenting more testimonials to you is not going to convince you any further.

The problem is that the average person is fucking DUMB, and half of them are even dumber than that. So if you ask if it's possible to collect thousands of dumbasses together, get them convinced that something wonderful is happening, and then get them to say it was a miracle-- yeah, THAT is possible.

What's not likely, until a much better quality of evidence is shown, is ANY MIRACLE, like I'm talking a non-zero number of them, has ever happened. . . ever.

Why is it that God is so fucking camera shy, anyway? You'd think the Lord of all Creation, the Savior of Humanity, could reveal His reality in something more convincing than the assorted collection yokel anecdotes. Why doesn't he go do a barrel roll above Manhattan or something?

[Jesster]

Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. It was worth a good yawn. Now what?

You obviously didn't give it long enough. You are not going to come across big cases on every call. Have them call you when they come across a big case. I personally knew a priest for 25 years where people from all over the country and even in other countries would BEG him to come and help them with paranormal related problems in their homes. These people were desperate and tried everything to get rid of the problems and no one could help them. This priest was world-famous for being one of the few that could actually help these people. Catholic prayers were the cure - proof of the supernatural. Watch episodes of, "A Haunting" - he is portrayed in many of the episodes. That show is the real deal.

"Very quickly" isn't long enough anymore? You sure do like to change your tune when it isn't convenient for you any longer. If you are just going to move the goalposts all day long, why should anyone bother with you?

Also, ha! "A Haunting"

[brewer]

pabsta, do you happen to have a tattoo parlor near by? 

I suggest you have a big "G" inked on your forehead. Identifying yourself as gullible right up front might help you get thru life.

[Astreja]

I personally knew a priest for 25 years where people from all over the country and even in other countries would BEG him to come and help them with paranormal related problems in their homes. These people were desperate and tried everything to get rid of the problems and no one could help them.

I am strongly of the opinion that their "paranormal related problems" were due in no small part to the ignorance and superstition instilled in those unfortunate people by the priesthood, and by a culture that values faith above reason.

I live in an old house in a neighbourhood notorious for alleged paranormal activity, so much so that a former co-worker mentioned odd goings-on at a house a short distance from my home.  Interestingly, I have no paranormal problems whatsoever, nor have I heard any mention of such from any of my neighbours.  It would appear that hauntings only happen to people who believe in them, and are therefore more likely to be a trick of the imagination than an actual supernatural occurrence.

[Amarok]

And if you had the thousands of pages of testimonials reviewed by the Catholic Church, would that convince you? Of course not, if you don't believe the 10 pages of testimonials gathered by the author in his book I mentioned, then presenting more testimonials to you is not going to convince you any further

Well your right about one thing pages of testimonials reviewed by a vested interest would not fly . And considering I also have a book full of testimonials who concluded the testimonials of the event were not to be trusted who wins ? and I also have millions who saw nothing and every observatory on earth .

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You obviously didn't give it long enough. You are not going to come across big cases on every call. Have them call you when they come across a big case. I personally knew a priest for 25 years where people from all over the country and even in other countries would BEG him to come and help them with paranormal related problems in their homes. These people were desperate and tried everything to get rid of the problems and no one could help them. This priest was world-famous for being one of the few that could actually help these people. Catholic prayers were the cure - proof of the supernatural. Watch episodes of, "A Haunting" - he is portrayed in many of the episodes. That show is the real deal.

"Very quickly" isn't long enough anymore? You sure do like to change your tune when it isn't convenient for you any longer. If you are just going to move the goalposts all day long, why should anyone bother with you?

Also, ha! "A Haunting"

Well yeah if you come to believe it's fast . If you find nothing you just have to keep wasting money on it . They win if you find something . They win if you find nothing . One way or another they win.

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As for hauntings and Ghost shows

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/A_Haunting

http://skepchick.org/2012/10/a-skeptic-on-a-ghost-hunt/

http://skepdic.com/haunted.html

[Thumpalumpacus]

Wait a minute, this guy's mounting the Edgar Cayce Defense?

I really hate the fact that I can't post a simple .gif here. This guy doesn't merit words.

[Ravenshire]

Since Pabsta is Catholic, and since my clan has an outstanding grievance against the RCC for damages resulting from the forced Christianization of Norway circa 1000 CE, how much weregeld should I claim from our deluded interlocutor?

Take 'im for all he's got. 89 ought to cover it.

Cents, not IQ points.

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As for the existence of the supernatural, that's a no-brainer. Go tag along with a paranormal investigator a few times and you will become a believer VERY quickly. It will scare the living daylights out of you. I personally know many people have been involved and it is NO joke. If you think I'm kidding, call one up and ask if you can go along. Seriously.

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You know many people who recognize you as an easy mark.