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The undeniable miracle at Fatima
RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
Seriously?

Paranormal investigators?

Those clowns with their own reality shows who claim that light reflecting off a dust mote is proof of a ghost because it's an orb?

We're only missing the illuminate and we have another Scoobs.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
Quote:Go tag along with a paranormal investigator a few times and you will become a believer VERY quickly. It will scare the living daylights out of you.

i'm sure if you lack critical thinking skills and are gullible you will. FYI I have done as you have said there methods were laughable .And there hostility to any kind of questioning was eye brow raising . But unlike you I not going to place my hat on my own testimony .

Most of thease types don't want to investigate they want personal confirmation.
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(August 7, 2017 at 1:39 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I have to say, I love the detective work that's gone on in this thread, as well as LP's and poca's takes on it.  Kudos to all of you.

He really pissed me off when he insulted the United State's history. I had to call him out on that bullshit, which I'm sure a) he didn't read and b) even if he did read it he won't acknowledge it.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
Quote:Can you predict an event months ahead of time to exact location and time of day? Of course not. If someone does, the supernatural must be involved.

H. L. Mencken did on July 26, 1920.

Quote:As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

Prophecy fulfilled for the first time on 1-20-2001 and repeated on 1-20-2017.

Let's see your fucking jesus top that!
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
(August 7, 2017 at 8:22 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Can you predict an event months ahead of time to exact location and time of day? Of course not. If someone does, the supernatural must be involved.

H. L. Mencken did on July 26, 1920.

Quote:As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

Prophecy fulfilled for the first time on 1-20-2001 and repeated on 1-20-2017.

Let's see your fucking jesus top that!

But...

BUT...

Jesus walked on water!

Beat that!

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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
Why paranormal investigators use fallacies

http://theparanormalanalyst.com/wp-conte...gators.pdf
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(August 7, 2017 at 8:21 pm)Nymphadora Wrote:
(August 7, 2017 at 1:39 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I have to say, I love the detective work that's gone on in this thread, as well as LP's and poca's takes on it.  Kudos to all of you.

He really pissed me off when he insulted the United State's history. I had to call him out on that bullshit, which I'm sure a) he didn't read and b) even if he did read it he won't acknowledge it.

But it's true.

Lincoln wasn't assassinated.

He's living on the moon with Neil Armstrong.
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(August 7, 2017 at 7:06 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: As for the claims the newspapers were anti religious you have yet to provide evidence of this . And we have evidence to the contrary that they were pro religious . The claim that people saw it remotely is debunked by the fact that none saw the actual event of the sun dancing . And people who were in the immediate area didn't see anything. And all mr wizard said.

To answer your question, I just skimmed through chapters 3 and 4 in "Meet the Witnesses", and the author explains that a Marxist group of revolutionaries had taken the country by force in 1910, so at the time of the miracle in 1917, they were in complete power and had control over the media. In the years that followed the miracle, there were 3 primary newspapers that continually made fun of the miracle. The revolutionaries publicly vowed to remove all religion from the country within 2 generations and there was much bloodshed in the years that followed the miracle. Yet the crowds continued to grow at the site of the miracle throughout the 1920s, once recorded at 400,000 in 1926. What wound up happening is, even some of the revolutionaries were convinced of the miracle, and it eventually led the whole revolution to fail.
 
The book also speaks of multiple atheists who came to make fun of the miracle and were immediate believers. The book also mentions that from what the author could gather, that the miracle was visible within 600 square miles. There is just too much to relating these short posts. I would suggest getting a copy of the book.
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Paranormal investigators? Come on, if that type of stuff is convincing to you then it's no surprise you find the Fatima stuff compelling.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
(August 7, 2017 at 8:04 pm)Jesster Wrote:
(August 7, 2017 at 7:56 pm)pabsta Wrote: As for the existence of the supernatural, that's a no-brainer. Go tag along with a paranormal investigator a few times and you will become a believer VERY quickly. It will scare the living daylights out of you. I personally know many people have been involved and it is NO joke. If you think I'm kidding, call one up and ask if you can go along. Seriously.

Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. It was worth a good yawn. Now what?

You obviously didn't give it long enough. You are not going to come across big cases on every call. Have them call you when they come across a big case. I personally knew a priest for 25 years where people from all over the country and even in other countries would BEG him to come and help them with paranormal related problems in their homes. These people were desperate and tried everything to get rid of the problems and no one could help them. This priest was world-famous for being one of the few that could actually help these people. Catholic prayers were the cure - proof of the supernatural. Watch episodes of, "A Haunting" - he is portrayed in many of the episodes. That show is the real deal.
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