Star Trek Discovery, your thoughts?

[Whateverist]

I sure would like to like it but the first episode was disappointing. I didn't enjoy the Simpsons-esque irony/humor. But I'll try it once more before ruling it out.

[drfuzzy]

I thought it was disappointing but I'll record a few more shows and give it a chance.  It's supposedly a prequel . . . but it doesn't look or feel like it.
I find "The Orville", though, surprisingly good.  A wacky-humor ST spoof/spinoff.

[RoadRunner79]

I only watched the first episode. I liked it, although I do think that it has a bit of a movie feel, that will be difficult to continue throughout the series. I would need to se more, to decide.

However; I already pay for CBS and I’m not going to pay $5/mo for one show.

[Aroura]

I am getting it on Netflix for no additional charge. I do think it is a mistake for the show to be essentially Pay per view. I mean, it works for Game of Thrones, but come on.

Now that I've sat on it a few hours, I like it even more. It was cerebral enouhg to begin with. There was a lot, actually, to tie it more to ToS. Not visually, that's all very modern, but it had:
Longtime friends/collegues
A touch of humor, not too campy as in ToS though
Some action, but not like non stop action
Quite a lot of thoughtful dialog between the characters
Actions and plot directly relating to modern social issues
Like religious fanaticism, nationalism (Remain Klingon!) and xenophobia

And honestly, the Klingons were pretty cool.

This looks to be a bit of a history lesson into why the Klingons have such a huge grudge against the Federation. Which is a nice premise for the season, I think. I mean, in ToS the Klingons were largely 2 dimensional bad guys, pretty much representing Russian, right? In TnG, they became friends (sort of) and there was some exploration of their culture. Now we'll get to see what led up to that, with what seems to be a pretty interesting story.

I will definitely watch the next few. I hope they don't drop the ball.

[Amarok]

Umm yes it is ... 

Just because Roddenberry didn't write it doesn't make it not canon . As for the explanation ones behind the scenes the other is in universe .

There's less canon in Enterprise than in the DC comicsverse.

Nope

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Their have been two 

The degenerated Klingons  a result of using human DNA to cure a horrible virus that threatened to wipe the Klingon race . 









The post and pre Degenerate Klingons before the virus and after the Klingons figured out how to fix the problem 







As for why we need Klingons there one of the big three powers in the Alpha/Beta quadrant .

We've had Klingons and:

Tribbles
Romulans
Spies
Traitors
Worf's honor
Worf's dishonor
Worf's kid
Worf's parents
Klingon religious pilgrims in the Delta Quadrant
Klingon's and the Genesis Project
Worf's girlfriend
Holographic Klingon's tormenting the EMH
Klingon immune system
Worf exploring the many worlds hypothesis
Worf being insulted by Q
Worf confronting paralysis
Worf devolving
Pink Klingon blood
Klingons on Organia
Klingons being exploited by Vidiians
Klingon dating human
Klingon marrying a human
Klingon building a 1950s TV set out of replicated parts
Klingon in the Maquis
Klingon moon exploding
Klingon having sex with a Talaxian
Klingon body odor
Klingon cuisine
Klingon's eating caviar
Klingons getting lucky with chemical rockets
Klingons influenced by gaseous alien
Klingons detecting antineutrino flux
Klingons disarmed while transporting
Klingon cloaking device
Klingon redundant internal organs
Klingons self destructing their own space ship
Klingon boarding party
Klingon pain rituals
Klingon coffee
Klingon archaic weapons
Klingon barge of the dead
Klingon adoption
Klingon pets
Klingon sexy seniors
Fat Klingon
Klingon rebellious offspring
Klingon sisters
Horny Klingon sisters
Klingon sisters with bad teeth
Klingon sisters working with Romulans
Klingon perfidy
Klingon space craft crushed in gas giant atmosphere
Klingon shot in cornfield
Klingon costumes at SciFi conventions
Klingon binge episode weekends
Klingon pollution
Klingon prison planet
Klingon judicial proceedings
Klingon abandoned city
Klingon holodeck
Klingon ship with alien ship hiding in exhaust
Klingon contractor
Klingon Batleth contests
Klingon target shooting derelict US spacecraft
Klingon photon torpedoes
Klingon shields
Klingon corridors
Klingon diplomats
Klingon names that sound like constipation remedies
Klingon anger
Klingon on rage
Klingon rage disorder
Klingon robes
Klingon spies with human collaborators
Klingon ship carrying whales
Klingon ship in Golden Gate Park
Klingon fighting the Borg
Klingon duplicated by a shape shifter
Klingon harassing Federation communication station

Well yeah there a major race . If were gonna complain maybe we talk about how star trek is the Human show essentially. Or how about the Vulcans  .....

[Ravenshire]

I am getting it on Netflix for no additional charge.  I do think it is a mistake for the show to be essentially Pay per view.  I mean, it works for Game of Thrones, but come on.

Now that I've sat on it a few hours, I like it even more.  It was cerebral enouhg to begin with.  There was a lot, actually, to tie it more to ToS.  Not visually, that's all very modern, but it had:
Longtime friends/collegues
A touch of humor, not too campy as in ToS though
Some action, but not like non stop action
Quite a lot of thoughtful dialog between the characters
Actions and plot directly relating to modern social issues
Like religious fanaticism, nationalism (Remain Klingon!) and xenophobia

And honestly, the Klingons were pretty cool.

This looks to be a bit of a history lesson into why the Klingons have such a huge grudge against the Federation.  Which is a nice premise for the season, I think.  I mean, in ToS the Klingons were largely 2 dimensional bad guys, pretty much representing Russian, right?  In TnG, they became friends (sort of) and there was some exploration of their culture.  Now we'll get to see what led up to that, with what seems to be a pretty interesting story.

I will definitely watch the next few.  I hope they don't drop the ball.

After finally watching the two part premier, I've got to agree with Aroura.

Having said that, it was still a series premier and they are almost never as good as the series that follows. Character introduction and development, expositions, all the stuff that the series relies on has to happen in the first episodes. I think they did a decent job with that while managing to keep the show entertaining enough to follow up. Did they make mistakes? Of course. Was it perfectly canon? Of course not. Still, it was more "Trek" then either "Enterprise" or "Star Trek: Lost in Space/Gilligan's Island... er... Voyager."

One thing they did that bugged me, Sarek having an adopted daughter. Much like Spock's half-brother, it breaks canon. It's mentioned at least once in TOS that Spock is Sarek's only child. Half-brothers and step-sisters are typically something that gets into official records or get discussed between life-long friends. Kirk most likely would have known about them both, especially in a friendship in which they had been through death, and life together.

For those complaining about too many Klingons, the Klingon Empire is historically the Federations greatest threat. The Romulans were always primarily isolationist, the Cardassians hadn't been encountered yet and the other "bad guy" races have either been Federation members (Andor, Tellar, etc...) or were never major threats. Who else does that leave within the timeline that won't break canon? This is back-story on why the Klingons have always been aggressive and even as allies, it was always a tense alliance.

All in all, it's a good start to what can be a very good addition to the "Star Trek" universe. Will it shine in the 2010's the way the original did in the 60's or the way DS9 did in the 90's? No way to tell yet, but I'm looking forward to finding out.

Keeping it behind a pay-wall in it's primary market may be it's undoing, though. Especially if CBS can't find a way to bring more to their corner of the streaming market. Having tons of back-catalogue stuff ain't gonna cut it when competing with the original programming from the likes of Netflix, Amazon Prime and the others.

[The Valkyrie]

I am getting it on Netflix for no additional charge.  I do think it is a mistake for the show to be essentially Pay per view.  I mean, it works for Game of Thrones, but come on.

Now that I've sat on it a few hours, I like it even more.  It was cerebral enouhg to begin with.  There was a lot, actually, to tie it more to ToS.  Not visually, that's all very modern, but it had:
Longtime friends/collegues
A touch of humor, not too campy as in ToS though
Some action, but not like non stop action
Quite a lot of thoughtful dialog between the characters
Actions and plot directly relating to modern social issues
Like religious fanaticism, nationalism (Remain Klingon!) and xenophobia

And honestly, the Klingons were pretty cool.

This looks to be a bit of a history lesson into why the Klingons have such a huge grudge against the Federation.  Which is a nice premise for the season, I think.  I mean, in ToS the Klingons were largely 2 dimensional bad guys, pretty much representing Russian, right?  In TnG, they became friends (sort of) and there was some exploration of their culture.  Now we'll get to see what led up to that, with what seems to be a pretty interesting story.

I will definitely watch the next few.  I hope they don't drop the ball.

After finally watching the two part premier, I've got to agree with Aroura.

Having said that, it was still a series premier and they are almost never as good as the series that follows. Character introduction and development, expositions, all the stuff that the series relies on has to happen in the first episodes. I think they did a decent job with that while managing to keep the show entertaining enough to follow up. Did they make mistakes? Of course. Was it perfectly canon? Of course not. Still, it was more "Trek" then either "Enterprise" or "Star Trek: Lost in Space/Gilligan's Island... er... Voyager."

One thing they did that bugged me, Sarek having an adopted daughter. Much like Spock's half-brother, it breaks canon. It's mentioned at least once in TOS that Spock is Sarek's only child. Half-brothers and step-sisters are typically something that gets into official records or get discussed between life-long friends. Kirk most likely would have known about them both, especially in a friendship in which they had been through death, and life together.

For those complaining about too many Klingons, the Klingon Empire is historically the Federations greatest threat. The Romulans were always primarily isolationist, the Cardassians hadn't been encountered yet and the other "bad guy" races have either been Federation members (Andor, Tellar, etc...) or were never major threats. Who else does that leave within the timeline that won't break canon? This is back-story on why the Klingons have always been aggressive and even as allies, it was always a tense alliance.

All in all, it's a good start to what can be a very good addition to the "Star Trek" universe. Will it shine in the 2010's the way the original did in the 60's or the way DS9 did in the 90's? No way to tell yet, but I'm looking forward to finding out.

Keeping it behind a pay-wall in it's primary market may be it's undoing, though. Especially if CBS can't find a way to bring more to their corner of the streaming market. Having tons of back-catalogue stuff ain't gonna cut it when competing with the original programming from the likes of Netflix, Amazon Prime and the others.

Obviously I haven't seen it.

And I probably won't for some time.

As I've stated, I really dislike retro-Trek. Though I do hate Abrams Trek far more.

I'll reserve judgement until I've seen it.

On the other comments, Voyager was actually pretty good when it really got going, though I quickly became tired of some of the recurring aliens from the first few seasons, and some of the storylines ended in a way I really didn't like (Some of our crew are kidnapped by aliens suffering from generations of a debilitating disease and they're going to kill them for their body parts.  Wait, they killed one of our crew already!  We'll sneak in, rescue our own, leave the rest of the captives, and not even take punitive action against this facility!)

DS9 was better, but I enjoyed Voyager, especially the later seasons (and the Captain Sulu episode).

[Whateverist]

So maybe I'm confused about which show the thread is about. I assumed it was the Orville one but is there another called Discovery that is on now too?

[The Valkyrie]

orville?

[Silver]

So maybe I'm confused about which show the thread is about.  I assumed it was the Orville one but is there another called Discovery that is on now too?

Star Trek Discovery
The Orville