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Religion is overly serious
#21
RE: Religion is overly serious
Valuing thing with proper value is true love. That is the definition of justice as well. Justice is giving everything it's proper due.

If you take the most valued being and the richest in value being, to be something to joke about, and his guidance towards himself, to be something to joke about, you become the joke and scorn of Iblis and his forces, the dark enemies of humans and Jinn.
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#22
RE: Religion is overly serious
(November 4, 2017 at 2:57 pm)Hammy Wrote:
(November 4, 2017 at 2:24 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -and yet it's all so silly.  Delicious irony.

God put religion there so he could laugh at the people who believed in bullshit. He's a deist god. Religion is false but there is a god. Or was until the god that created the universe blew its own brains out shouting "WHAT HAVE I DONE?!?!?!?" after a bunch of religious people mascaraed each other. That's totally what happened.

Did you mean 'mascaraed' or massacred ?  I imagine that religious people putting eye liner on each other all day would be enough to make any god throw its hands in the air. Glad to see others get spell check abuse as well Smile
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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#23
RE: Religion is overly serious
(November 4, 2017 at 2:05 pm)Die Atheistin Wrote: Religious people dislike jokes about religion (their religion at the very least). I know some moderates that may accept jokes about priests that care only about money and stuff like that, but they would dislike any joke about saints and gods (Maybe not all moderates are like that, but the ones I know surely are). Some won't accept even that, years ago I've told my dad some jokes about corrupted priests, and he said that religion shouldn't be made fun of. 
Why? Joking about something doesn't automatically mean putting it in a negative light. In fact, the Chuck Norris jokes portray him as awesome. If God were real, shouldn't He be flattered and amused to be praised in a comedic way? If you're a believer and you think that your god doesn't want this kind of praise, it means that he doesn't have a sense of humour, so he isn't all knowing. If you follow a religion because it makes you feel happy, and you rather imagine a god than believe in him then why imagine such a serious one? 
Also, there are many serious things that are joked about. There are jokes about scientific discoveries, scientists aren't offended by them, some of them will even make jokes like that. There are parodies of smart famous people, they don't feel offended as long as they aren't put in a bad light. There are parodies of good movies, they don't necessarily claim that these movies are bad.
I think that religion presents itself as serious because it's teachings are mostly shit. Most of them are laughable no matter how you present them. If they were taught in a comedic way, most of the populatin would see them as nothing more than jokes. It would be harder to manipulate the masses.
As an atheist I don't feel offended by jokes about atheism. In fact, I adore jokes like that as long as they are good. If a joke is unfunny, but has a good message (if it has a message), I'm just unimpressed. If a joke has a bad message, I know that the one who made it doesn't know any better, so I'm not mad about it. You are more likely to meet an atheis joking about atheism than a religious joking about religion.
Not met many Catholics, have you?

I know soo many Catholic jokes, most I learned from priests.  Not all are sexual predators you know, and plenty (depending on the order) have a pretty good sense of humor about everything, including a bit of absurdity about their faith.  I've always thought that the difference between a Jesuit, a Franciscan and a Dominican are almost wide enough to make them different religions.

I think certain religions are touchier than others.  Clearly very few Muslims, for instance have much of a sense of humor regarding their religion.  The same is likely true for Evangelicals.  I'm not sure about the other 30,000-ish Christian denominations, I suppose it varies.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?” 
― Tom StoppardRosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
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#24
RE: Religion is overly serious
(November 5, 2017 at 10:23 am)Aroura Wrote:
(November 4, 2017 at 2:05 pm)Die Atheistin Wrote: Religious people dislike jokes about religion (their religion at the very least). I know some moderates that may accept jokes about priests that care only about money and stuff like that, but they would dislike any joke about saints and gods (Maybe not all moderates are like that, but the ones I know surely are). Some won't accept even that, years ago I've told my dad some jokes about corrupted priests, and he said that religion shouldn't be made fun of. 
Why? Joking about something doesn't automatically mean putting it in a negative light. In fact, the Chuck Norris jokes portray him as awesome. If God were real, shouldn't He be flattered and amused to be praised in a comedic way? If you're a believer and you think that your god doesn't want this kind of praise, it means that he doesn't have a sense of humour, so he isn't all knowing. If you follow a religion because it makes you feel happy, and you rather imagine a god than believe in him then why imagine such a serious one? 
Also, there are many serious things that are joked about. There are jokes about scientific discoveries, scientists aren't offended by them, some of them will even make jokes like that. There are parodies of smart famous people, they don't feel offended as long as they aren't put in a bad light. There are parodies of good movies, they don't necessarily claim that these movies are bad.
I think that religion presents itself as serious because it's teachings are mostly shit. Most of them are laughable no matter how you present them. If they were taught in a comedic way, most of the populatin would see them as nothing more than jokes. It would be harder to manipulate the masses.
As an atheist I don't feel offended by jokes about atheism. In fact, I adore jokes like that as long as they are good. If a joke is unfunny, but has a good message (if it has a message), I'm just unimpressed. If a joke has a bad message, I know that the one who made it doesn't know any better, so I'm not mad about it. You are more likely to meet an atheis joking about atheism than a religious joking about religion.
Not met many Catholics, have you?

I know soo many Catholic jokes, most I learned from priests.  Not all are sexual predators you know, and plenty (depending on the order) have a pretty good sense of humor about everything, including a bit of absurdity about their faith.  I've always thought that the difference between a Jesuit, a Franciscan and a Dominican are almost wide enough to make them different religions.

I think certain religions are touchier than others.  Clearly very few Muslims, for instance have much of a sense of humor regarding their religion.  The same is likely true for Evangelicals.  I'm not sure about the other 30,000-ish Christian denominations, I suppose it varies.
Ah, ye Olde GSOH. You are, of course, correct. Priests are simply people at the end of the day. I have had the opportunity to debate some. They are just regular guys/gals. 

Religion aside, there is one thing that all have agreed upon. It takes the intertubes to bring out the inner troll.
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#25
RE: Religion is overly serious
(November 5, 2017 at 10:23 am)Aroura Wrote:
(November 4, 2017 at 2:05 pm)Die Atheistin Wrote: Religious people dislike jokes about religion (their religion at the very least). I know some moderates that may accept jokes about priests that care only about money and stuff like that, but they would dislike any joke about saints and gods (Maybe not all moderates are like that, but the ones I know surely are). Some won't accept even that, years ago I've told my dad some jokes about corrupted priests, and he said that religion shouldn't be made fun of. 
Why? Joking about something doesn't automatically mean putting it in a negative light. In fact, the Chuck Norris jokes portray him as awesome. If God were real, shouldn't He be flattered and amused to be praised in a comedic way? If you're a believer and you think that your god doesn't want this kind of praise, it means that he doesn't have a sense of humour, so he isn't all knowing. If you follow a religion because it makes you feel happy, and you rather imagine a god than believe in him then why imagine such a serious one? 
Also, there are many serious things that are joked about. There are jokes about scientific discoveries, scientists aren't offended by them, some of them will even make jokes like that. There are parodies of smart famous people, they don't feel offended as long as they aren't put in a bad light. There are parodies of good movies, they don't necessarily claim that these movies are bad.
I think that religion presents itself as serious because it's teachings are mostly shit. Most of them are laughable no matter how you present them. If they were taught in a comedic way, most of the populatin would see them as nothing more than jokes. It would be harder to manipulate the masses.
As an atheist I don't feel offended by jokes about atheism. In fact, I adore jokes like that as long as they are good. If a joke is unfunny, but has a good message (if it has a message), I'm just unimpressed. If a joke has a bad message, I know that the one who made it doesn't know any better, so I'm not mad about it. You are more likely to meet an atheis joking about atheism than a religious joking about religion.
Not met many Catholics, have you?

I know soo many Catholic jokes, most I learned from priests.  Not all are sexual predators you know, and plenty (depending on the order) have a pretty good sense of humor about everything, including a bit of absurdity about their faith.  I've always thought that the difference between a Jesuit, a Franciscan and a Dominican are almost wide enough to make them different religions.

I think certain religions are touchier than others.  Clearly very few Muslims, for instance have much of a sense of humor regarding their religion.  The same is likely true for Evangelicals.  I'm not sure about the other 30,000-ish Christian denominations, I suppose it varies.

I couldn't help but think of Father Ted when I read that.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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#26
RE: Religion is overly serious
(November 5, 2017 at 10:33 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(November 5, 2017 at 10:23 am)Aroura Wrote: Not met many Catholics, have you?

I know soo many Catholic jokes, most I learned from priests.  Not all are sexual predators you know, and plenty (depending on the order) have a pretty good sense of humor about everything, including a bit of absurdity about their faith.  I've always thought that the difference between a Jesuit, a Franciscan and a Dominican are almost wide enough to make them different religions.

I think certain religions are touchier than others.  Clearly very few Muslims, for instance have much of a sense of humor regarding their religion.  The same is likely true for Evangelicals.  I'm not sure about the other 30,000-ish Christian denominations, I suppose it varies.
Ah, ye Olde GSOH. You are, of course, correct. Priests are simply people at the end of the day. I have had the opportunity to debate some. They are just regular guys/gals. 

Religion aside, there is one thing that all have agreed upon. It takes the intertubes to bring out the inner troll.


If any of them were actually gals, please don't rat them out.
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#27
RE: Religion is overly serious
Well I never thought that I will see an Romanian Atheist on this forum . I think Christians don't take jokes about God that well because it sounds more like mockery and disrespect to them.
But who knows maybe with a package of sugar they will change their minds.
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#28
RE: Religion is overly serious
"When Chuang-tzu was dying, his disciples wanted to give him a lavish funeral. Said Chuang-tzu
'I have heaven and earth for my outer and inner coffin, the sun and moon for my pair of jade discs, the stars for my pearls, the myriad creatures for my farewell presents. Is anything missing from my funeral paraphernalia? What will you add to these?'

'Master, we are afraid that the crows and the kites will eat you.'

'Above ground, I'll be eaten by the crows and kites; below ground, I'll be eaten by the ants and molecrickets. You rob the one of them to give to the other; how come you like them so much better?'"

-The Inner Chapters , Ivanhoe translation

It's true. The Abrahamic religions just have no sense of humor. I can't be expected to follow something like that!
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#29
RE: Religion is overly serious
(November 5, 2017 at 10:23 am)Aroura Wrote:
(November 4, 2017 at 2:05 pm)Die Atheistin Wrote: Religious people dislike jokes about religion (their religion at the very least). I know some moderates that may accept jokes about priests that care only about money and stuff like that, but they would dislike any joke about saints and gods (Maybe not all moderates are like that, but the ones I know surely are). Some won't accept even that, years ago I've told my dad some jokes about corrupted priests, and he said that religion shouldn't be made fun of. 
Why? Joking about something doesn't automatically mean putting it in a negative light. In fact, the Chuck Norris jokes portray him as awesome. If God were real, shouldn't He be flattered and amused to be praised in a comedic way? If you're a believer and you think that your god doesn't want this kind of praise, it means that he doesn't have a sense of humour, so he isn't all knowing. If you follow a religion because it makes you feel happy, and you rather imagine a god than believe in him then why imagine such a serious one? 
Also, there are many serious things that are joked about. There are jokes about scientific discoveries, scientists aren't offended by them, some of them will even make jokes like that. There are parodies of smart famous people, they don't feel offended as long as they aren't put in a bad light. There are parodies of good movies, they don't necessarily claim that these movies are bad.
I think that religion presents itself as serious because it's teachings are mostly shit. Most of them are laughable no matter how you present them. If they were taught in a comedic way, most of the populatin would see them as nothing more than jokes. It would be harder to manipulate the masses.
As an atheist I don't feel offended by jokes about atheism. In fact, I adore jokes like that as long as they are good. If a joke is unfunny, but has a good message (if it has a message), I'm just unimpressed. If a joke has a bad message, I know that the one who made it doesn't know any better, so I'm not mad about it. You are more likely to meet an atheis joking about atheism than a religious joking about religion.
Not met many Catholics, have you?

I know soo many Catholic jokes, most I learned from priests.  Not all are sexual predators you know, and plenty (depending on the order) have a pretty good sense of humor about everything, including a bit of absurdity about their faith.  I've always thought that the difference between a Jesuit, a Franciscan and a Dominican are almost wide enough to make them different religions.

I think certain religions are touchier than others.  Clearly very few Muslims, for instance have much of a sense of humor regarding their religion.  The same is likely true for Evangelicals.  I'm not sure about the other 30,000-ish Christian denominations, I suppose it varies.

I'm orthodox. I must admit that I've heard plenty of jokes about Christianity on radio and television in my country, though I don't know if ones who made those jokes were religious or not. I talked from my experience, my family doesn't approve certain types of jokes about Christianity.

(November 5, 2017 at 11:28 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: Well I never thought that I will see an Romanian Atheist on this forum . I think Christians don't take jokes about God that well because it sounds more like mockery and disrespect to them.
But who knows maybe with a package of sugar they will change their minds.

There are very few atheists in Romania. There are a few atheist groups here but I'm not financially stable yet, so I can't risk being caught in one of those. I will come out of the closet when I'll become financially stable.

(November 5, 2017 at 10:23 am)Aroura Wrote: Not met many Catholics, have you?

I know soo many Catholic jokes, most I learned from priests.  Not all are sexual predators you know, and plenty (depending on the order) have a pretty good sense of humor about everything, including a bit of absurdity about their faith.  I've always thought that the difference between a Jesuit, a Franciscan and a Dominican are almost wide enough to make them different religions.

I think certain religions are touchier than others.  Clearly very few Muslims, for instance have much of a sense of humor regarding their religion.  The same is likely true for Evangelicals.  I'm not sure about the other 30,000-ish Christian denominations, I suppose it varies.

Do these catholics believe in Hell?
"By simple common sense I don't believe in God, in none"

Charlie Chaplin
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#30
RE: Religion is overly serious
The best of humanity, it is a serious evil to be against them, and its the definition of goodness to be with them and on their side. Be with the truthful and free yourself from all other than the source of visions you rely, the visions of love by which you know every soul has a value and that actions cling to people and people cannot escape their actions.

And being with them means you see the good they command and see the evil they forbid and help them commanding to good and forbidding evil. It means to fear no one but God, and that fear of anyone or humans should be derived only from your fear of God's cause, not fear of losing a perishing world that is bound to perish and death is not something anyone can escape.

It is to prefer the name of God and leader of time over oneself, although, all salvation and good lies in loving such a leader and preferring him over yourself so it's not like you lose truly anything by doing so.
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