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RE: White Guy Self-Identifies as Filipino Woman
November 15, 2017 at 6:37 pm
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(November 15, 2017 at 6:18 pm)Mathilda Wrote: (November 15, 2017 at 4:49 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: You didn't copy and paste the very next sentence:
Intersex genitalia is by no means normal male genitalia.
Yeah I knew you'd start trying to worm your way out of what you asserted and find ways to argue that it does not apply. But I would like to remind you what actually said:
(November 15, 2017 at 3:23 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: No one is born with female chromosomes and male genitalia. That's impossible.
You didn't specify 'normal' male genitalia, or specifically testicles or whatever. All you said was male genitalia.
And I showed that you were wrong.
You're probably reading this and thinking that I am being obtuse or pedantic, but the fault comes with your ignorance about biology.
Chromosomes are nothing more than instructions. It can't be used to say that a person is a man or a woman any more than showing the recipe you followed means that your dumpling is actually a souffle. What matters is how well the recipe is followed and the end result. Fact is that the fetus does start off female in the womb and hormonal washes determine whether it further develops into a girl or develops into a boy, or something inbetween. The same cells either end up forming a female's clitoris or a male's penis for example. So with the example I showed, there is a mixture of male and female development.
Now if you want to argue that the bits that have developed as male for an intersex individual aren't the same as the bits on a 'normal' male, then you'll need to explain why and back that up with evidence along with references to how it compares with the full range of 'normal' male genitalia found in the population. This will of course also require you to set a specific boundary of when normal stops and starts along a continuum.
An enlarged clitoris and fused labia is not male genetalia, but ok. I'm not going to argue over semantics.
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RE: White Guy Self-Identifies as Filipino Woman
November 15, 2017 at 6:39 pm
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Wow more profound ignorance from the anti trans movement . I'll just leave the debunking here . Punctuated with more bigotry nice .
Why trans is not about self identification
https://debunkingdenialism.com/2017/03/0...-declined/
Why it can't be classified as a delusion or mental condition
https://debunkingdenialism.com/2013/12/0...-delusion/
Why there is no problem between Trans and Feminism
http://msmagazine.com/blog/2012/04/18/tr...-about-it/
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RE: White Guy Self-Identifies as Filipino Woman
November 15, 2017 at 6:39 pm
(November 15, 2017 at 6:33 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (November 15, 2017 at 6:09 pm)Aegon Wrote: Who's going to tell them what they're meant to be? You?
God and the leader he appointed, the witness among humans, who sees their states and trials and talents, and unseen image, and knows their talents is the one, and the one who will through God's book will manifest light and endless doors to endless doors to knowledge.
Just wait till the veil is removed.
Can you give me a more detailed response? This is a bit too cryptic to follow. Speaking in this "mysterious" manner means nothing to me, you may as well be talking to yourself. And to say I don't understand because I haven't found God or something just seems like a cop-out.
I have found God by the way. It's me. (Don't worry MK, you're God too.)
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RE: White Guy Self-Identifies as Filipino Woman
November 15, 2017 at 6:44 pm
There is an elaboration. I can give you details. But you will have to bear patiently, as there are doors to doors...subjects leadings to others, foundations building which are foundations to other buildings.
There is the detailed explanation yes of how humans are to go about judging their disputes, knowing who they are, and being guided and navigated in a guidance they were always meant to be guided upon.
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RE: White Guy Self-Identifies as Filipino Woman
November 15, 2017 at 6:46 pm
I self identify as Valk's number one bitch.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: White Guy Self-Identifies as Filipino Woman
November 15, 2017 at 6:48 pm
(November 15, 2017 at 6:44 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There is an elaboration. I can give you details. But you will have to bear patiently, as there are doors to doors...subjects leadings to others, foundations building which are foundations to other buildings.
There is the detailed explanation yes of how humans are to go about judging their disputes, knowing who they are, and being guided and navigated in a guidance they were always meant to be guided upon.
Edit, damn you!
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RE: White Guy Self-Identifies as Filipino Woman
November 15, 2017 at 6:54 pm
Yeah, and Rudolf Steiner posited a 12-fold man using projective geometry. Makes as much as your seven what-evers.
BoT, it has been recognized for some time that what people identify as is real for them. I happen to fit my identification of a fat middle-aged white male pretty well, so nobody gives me grief for it. Mostly.
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RE: White Guy Self-Identifies as Filipino Woman
November 15, 2017 at 6:55 pm
(November 15, 2017 at 6:46 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I self identify as Valk's number one bitch.
Have you done the dishes yet?
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RE: White Guy Self-Identifies as Filipino Woman
November 15, 2017 at 7:09 pm
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RE: White Guy Self-Identifies as Filipino Woman
November 15, 2017 at 7:19 pm
Jokes on you, I don't have to pay federal taxes either.
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