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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 11:23 pm
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(January 17, 2018 at 11:19 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (January 17, 2018 at 11:09 pm)Joods Wrote: If she was so concerned with it being actual sexual assault, then why go to a reporter instead of the police? Would she have done that if she hadn't been with someone famous? Chances are she wouldn't have. One has a right to question her motive for speaking to a reporter because this guy has celebrity status. If there are any charges pressed, it's literally now unrealistic for him to even get a fair trial simply because it's made national headlines. I say she got even, if that's what she was even going for. Who's to say what her motive was for having her "story" told.
Didn't you take a powder last year in part because that same first question was asked of you? Forgive me if I'm not remembering that correctly, but it seemed terribly upsetting to you at that time.
I believe Joods is questioning why she went to a reporter instead of the police; not why she didn’t go to the police at all.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 11:28 pm
(January 17, 2018 at 11:23 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (January 17, 2018 at 11:19 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Didn't you take a powder last year in part because that same first question was asked of you? Forgive me if I'm not remembering that correctly, but it seemed terribly upsetting to you at that time.
I believe Joods is questioning why she went to a reporter instead of the police; not why she didn’t go to the police at all.
I'll try to follow that distinction, but it still strikes me as discrediting her story based on the absence of police contact. It seems to me that "why did she turn to the media?" has already been answered in the Babe article, though. She turned to friends in order to assess if her perception of events was justified.
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January 17, 2018 at 11:30 pm
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"Lyin bitches be gettin revenge". The whole situation is a landmine. 
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January 17, 2018 at 11:35 pm
(January 17, 2018 at 11:30 pm)Khemikal Wrote: "Lyin bitches be gettin revenge". The whole situation is a landmine.
Are you kidding? This whole thread is a landmine. 😛
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January 17, 2018 at 11:37 pm
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IKR? Thanks, Aziz! 
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January 17, 2018 at 11:38 pm
Quote:Basically, he ordered white instead of red wine,
That is inexcusable.
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January 18, 2018 at 12:12 am
(January 17, 2018 at 10:19 pm)Joods Wrote: So this happened in Tribeca, which is located in New York state, Manhattan, to be more precise. So I looked up the state statutes on what constitutes sexual assault. I think it's pretty easy to determine whats what, so I'll just put the information here.
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/new-york-la...-laws.html
Quote:New York Sexual Assault Statute
Forcible Touching and Sexual Abuse Offenses
Penal Code Sections 130.52 - 130.70
Quote:http://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pe...30-52.html
A person is guilty of forcible touching when such person intentionally, and for no legitimate purpose:
1. forcibly touches the sexual or other intimate parts of another person for the purpose of degrading or abusing such person, or for the purpose of gratifying the actor's sexual desire; or
2. subjects another person to sexual contact for the purpose of gratifying the actor's sexual desire and with intent to degrade or abuse such other person while such other person is a passenger on a bus, train, or subway car operated by any transit agency, authority or company, public or private, whose operation is authorized by New York state or any of its political subdivisions.
For the purposes of this section, forcible touching includes squeezing, grabbing or pinching.
Forcible touching is a class A misdemeanor.
Quote:A person is guilty of sexual abuse in the third degree when he or she subjects another person to sexual contact without the latter's consent; except that in any prosecution under this section, it is an affirmative defense that (a) such other person's lack of consent was due solely to incapacity to consent by reason of being less than seventeen years old, and (b) such other person was more than fourteen years old, and © the defendant was less than five years older than such other person.
Sexual abuse in the third degree is a class B misdemeanor.
I compel anyone to find anything that would indicate that he sexually assaulted her, under the legal definition as defined by New York State Statutes and I will gladly stand corrected.
As far as New York State in concerned, Forcible Touching and Sexual Abuse in the Third Degree would appear to be quite applicable to this matter.
If you "don't see it."..then you just don't see it, I guess.
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January 18, 2018 at 12:19 am
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(January 17, 2018 at 11:19 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (January 17, 2018 at 11:09 pm)Joods Wrote: If she was so concerned with it being actual sexual assault, then why go to a reporter instead of the police? Would she have done that if she hadn't been with someone famous? Chances are she wouldn't have. One has a right to question her motive for speaking to a reporter because this guy has celebrity status. If there are any charges pressed, it's literally now unrealistic for him to even get a fair trial simply because it's made national headlines. I say she got even, if that's what she was even going for. Who's to say what her motive was for having her "story" told.
Didn't you take a powder last year in part because that same first question was asked of you? Forgive me if I'm not remembering that correctly, but it seemed terribly upsetting to you at that time.
Unlike Grace, I was actually raped. The person responsible threatened my life and the life of my child. To those who think I don't know the difference - I do. Very much so. The person who raped me wasn't a celebrity. The person who raped me was someone whom I thought I could trust because unlike Grace, I knew this person.
Oh - and unlike Grace, I never went to a reporter to get my story out.
(January 17, 2018 at 11:23 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (January 17, 2018 at 11:19 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Didn't you take a powder last year in part because that same first question was asked of you? Forgive me if I'm not remembering that correctly, but it seemed terribly upsetting to you at that time.
I believe Joods is questioning why she went to a reporter instead of the police; not why she didn’t go to the police at all.
Exactly. But nice of people to bring up my actual rape and compare it to this. Like, what the actual fuck.
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January 18, 2018 at 12:22 am
I've never been raped by a celebrity either. I guess other people have all the luck (I couldn't help it).
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 18, 2018 at 12:31 am
(January 18, 2018 at 12:12 am)Thena323 Wrote: (January 17, 2018 at 10:19 pm)Joods Wrote: So this happened in Tribeca, which is located in New York state, Manhattan, to be more precise. So I looked up the state statutes on what constitutes sexual assault. I think it's pretty easy to determine whats what, so I'll just put the information here.
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/new-york-la...-laws.html
I compel anyone to find anything that would indicate that he sexually assaulted her, under the legal definition as defined by New York State Statutes and I will gladly stand corrected.
As far as New York State in concerned, Forcible Touching and Sexual Abuse in the Third Degree would appear to be quite applicable to this matter.
If you "don't see it."..then you just don't see it, I guess.
I don't know what to tell you, chick. Tis unfortunate.
Except you twisted it to mean what you wanted it to. You conveniently left out the words " except that in any prosecution under this section, it is an affirmative defense that (a) such other person's lack of consent was due solely to incapacity to consent by reason of being less than seventeen years old, and (b) such other person was more than fourteen years old, and © the defendant was less than five years older than such other person."
You are leaving out the age part of that section.
You keep failing to realize that as soon as she expressed the fact that she no longer wanted to do things, he stopped. And not at any time was she being held there. She. Was. Free. To. Go. At. Any. Time. She was happy with whatever he was doing until she decided that she wasn't happy with it and he stopped.
I find it sad that you don't want to acknowledge that convenient fact, but you want to accuse me, a victim of SA, of victim blaming. If you don't see that, chick, I guess you don't. And yes, it is quite sad when you try to use someone else's history against them in this way. Same goes for your boyfriend who couldn't even get the facts straight about my past either.
How about you do you and I'll do me and we'll just leave it at that since you don't want to have a reasonable discussion. You just want to sling insults and accusations at anyone who doesn't agree with you. Tis a shame about that sort of mindset.
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