What are your answers?

[Violet]

The sky is blue regardless of what one perceives it to be. This is because the color blue is just a human word for a wavelength of light that exists independent of the human eye. I'm not close, I'm dead on.

Or does it?

/endsolipsism.

Sure, it 'exists' independent of it. But its existence is meaningless. China exists? Sure. But to me it exists as a little chunk of land on a map. I don't add cities, I don't add people... it's blank.

Everything is. What it consists of though... that is the stuff of an individual's perception and imagination

Yet another reason for separating what we believe from what we know. One can imagine two groups of people stabbing each other over such a disagreement.

Scientific knowledge. All the same effect, but it doesn't turn a simple word into crap that fails itself philosophically.

[The Grand Nudger]

Speaking of a weakness for pagans. Anymouse, ever read:

http://www.amazon.com/Religion-Nature-Do...0791454541

You might enjoy it. Fair warning, McGrath can be tedious, Crosby stole the show for me.

[Violet]

When the world seems to be ruled by stupidity i can always count on rhythm to make sense.

He makes sense to you?

What a sad worldview you must have This is mine:

[thesummerqueen]

Sad worldview because he makes sense? Oh Sae.

[crooked smile]

[Violet]

Sad worldview because he makes sense? Oh Sae.

[crooked smile]

Of course ^_^

Sensibilities are always monotonous, boring even. Sometimes covered in ketchup

I just enjoy life, here in my fantasy land

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You could join me... the sex is better here too

[Simon Moon]

Transportation is a great example of faith. You have faith that you will have a safe trip when you drive, but you don't have the knowledge that you'll get there alive, even though you can see, touch and secure yourself in your vehicle.

The chances that I'll have a safe trip when I drive is not based on faith. It is based on reasonable expectations. HUGE difference.

I have loads of evidence that I will have a safe trip.

This is not what is meant by Christians when they use the word faith.

Anyone can have knowledge of an empty cup because this world tells us what liquids and solids look and feel like. But could you have faith that the cup was empty if you 30 paces away from it? Or would you have to have faith from the knowledge that Sae gives you, when she tells you it's empty?

If someone tells me a cup is empty, I don't require faith to believe them. I know that there are a limited number of states the cup can be in concerning the amount of fluid in it. Full, empty or some in between state of being partially filled.

If they told be it was in any of those states, I'd have no reason to use faith the believe them. After all, they aren't telling me it is empty because a gnome just came and drank its contents.

Faith, by its nature, is not a source of valid or reliable knowledge, it therefore should be avoided, not sought.

[The Grand Nudger]

SO SAYETH BOB!

[Violet]

I like the signature, rhythm

Only it makes me think you are gay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg

[The Grand Nudger]

Odd numbered tuesdays Sae, odd numbered tuesdays.

[Anymouse]

I guess it's easy to say that it seems athiests hate God because of all the mockery, assault, etc. Personally since I don't believe in Allah I rarely mention him. I don't believe in Apollo or Zues, therefore I barely ever waste my time speaking about them, (rest hidden)

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but when I see people starting threads about how much they're annoyed and can't stand this or that, I just questioned the reason behind it. I'm not trying to convince anyone I'm right and instead of deciding how people feel about God, Jesus, organized religion, I expressed my views on what it seems like athiests think and am thankful that athiests responded to correct me. It is not my intention to disrespect any of you, just remember that even though this is your place, you've given me the ability to express my opinion among you. Thank you.

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So you admit you are an atheist about the existence of all gods except your own god. So how hard is the step to be atheistic about only one more, when you already have the practice against all the others?

Why would you express your views on how it seems what atheists think? Can they not speak for themselves on their own forum here? (Most atheists are literate. In Oklahoma where I used to live, and some 70% of the people are illiterate, a lower rate than Cambodia, I was an adult literacy instructor. Without exception the illiterate were -always- Christians. Every last one.

My wife taught a person who's goal was to "read the Bible." (KJV of course, even many literate people cannot properly read that). She informed her student she could teach her to read, but teaching the KJV in particular was beyond her skill, as she is not well versed in ancient Modern English.