Boston Globe Story for All the Future School Shootings

[brewer]

They forgot: The media will cash in on the tragedy, at length and often inappropriately.

The media in this fact is to be blamed as well. The fact being if you look at the Tide pod challenge they were to blame for it existing.
I mean what kind of news reporting shows you how to hide weapons in your clothing and on your body live on tv not expecting people to take notes. 
that and in the U.S. our mental healthcare institution is such a fucking joke and we need to start taking it seriously and addressing the problems.

You missed my point completely.

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They forgot: The media will cash in on the tragedy, at length and often inappropriately.

It’s not that simple. If they do too little coverage, they get complaints that they aren’t covering it enough. If they cover it excessively, they get complaints that they are being overbearing. There’s a fine line that I think most people wouldn’t be able to find.

Just saying they need to also point at least one finger at themselves.

[rskovride]

They forgot: The media will cash in on the tragedy, at length and often inappropriately.

Maybe if we could encourage students to essentially rush the attacker immediately there might be a hero to get all of the news coverage instead of the attacker.  Sam Harris refers to how commercial air line crisis are handled today and posits that similar action during an active shooter situation would save lives.  Interesting take on gun control, his podcast here.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

They forgot: The media will cash in on the tragedy, at length and often inappropriately.

It’s not that simple. If they do too little coverage, they get complaints that they aren’t covering it enough. If they cover it excessively, they get complaints that they are being overbearing. There’s a fine line that I think most people wouldn’t be able to find.

And the "too much"  and "too little" vary from person to person, so the media will never please everybody.

[Cecelia]

Maybe if we could encourage students to essentially rush the attacker immediately there might be a hero to get all of the news coverage instead of the attacker.  Sam Harris refers to how commercial air line crisis are handled today and posits that similar action during an active shooter situation would save lives.  Interesting take on gun control, his podcast here.

Really?  You don't think that there are heroes?  Victoria Soto threw herself in front of her first grade students in the Sandy Hook massacre.  There were countless teachers who got students to safety, and did their best to keep the children calm whose names we don't know.  What about Scott Beigel, who got shot getting his students into the classroom, saving their lives?  Or Aaron Feis who threw himself in front of his students?  Or student Anthony Borges, who shielded fellow students from bullets, taking five himself?  That's not to mention the heroes who's stories won't be known, or can't be known because nobody alive saw it happen.

The idea that only those who STOP IT are heroes is not a true sentiment at all.  It's easy to say that people should just rush the attacker.  That's ignoring the fact that the first priority should be getting students to safety.  

Someone without training should NOT rush a heavily armed assailant.  Most police officers will tell you this.  My dad, a former FBI Agent, would agree whole-heartedly.  Rushing these assailants is something left for the movies and television.  And expecting that of students who are 14, 15 years old.... really?

[Seraphina]

There's an Onion story that gets recycled after every major shooting. "No Way To Prevent This, Said Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens."
They've been running it since 2014.

“This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said North Carolina resident Samuel Wipper, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past five years were referring to themselves and their situation as "helpless".

[Wyrd of Gawd]

School killings have been going on in the neighborhood for 254 years.  http://pabook2.libraries.psu.edu/palitmap/Enoch.html.

[rskovride]

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Cecelia
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Someone without training should NOT rush a heavily armed assailant.  Most police officers will tell you this.  My dad, a former FBI Agent, would agree whole-heartedly. 

The events on 9/11/01 may have been drastically different if not for law enforcement saying these things.  Just because police or a former FBI agent said it does not make it true or correct, whether "whole-heartedly" (how does one quantify "whole-heartedely") said or not.

[Cecelia]

The 9-11 Hijackers were armed with box cutters, not with guns. There's quite the difference you're leaving out (for good reason, I imagine)

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Maybe if we could encourage students to essentially rush the attacker immediately there might be a hero to get all of the news coverage instead of the attacker.  Sam Harris refers to how commercial air line crisis are handled today and posits that similar action during an active shooter situation would save lives.  Interesting take on gun control, his podcast here.

Really?  You don't think that there are heroes?  Victoria Soto threw herself in front of her first grade students in the Sandy Hook massacre.  There were countless teachers who got students to safety, and did their best to keep the children calm whose names we don't know.  What about Scott Beigel, who got shot getting his students into the classroom, saving their lives?  Or Aaron Feis who threw himself in front of his students?  Or student Anthony Borges, who shielded fellow students from bullets, taking five himself?  That's not to mention the heroes who's stories won't be known, or can't be known because nobody alive saw it happen.

The idea that only those who STOP IT are heroes is not a true sentiment at all.  It's easy to say that people should just rush the attacker.  That's ignoring the fact that the first priority should be getting students to safety.  

Someone without training should NOT rush a heavily armed assailant.  Most police officers will tell you this.  My dad, a former FBI Agent, would agree whole-heartedly.  Rushing these assailants is something left for the movies and television.  And expecting that of students who are 14, 15 years old.... really?

The worst thing you can do is to disarm the bad guy and be standing there with his gun in your hands when the thug cops show up. They will immediately kill you, especially if you're a black man.  And it's not a good idea to call them in the first place to report a crime if you're a black guy because some thug cop will immediately shoot you as soon as he sees you.

KING: Black Indianapolis man shot by cops after calling police to report robbery
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.2762748

"Few cases typify everything that is wrong with gun rights, police brutality and racial profiling like this one.

Early Tuesday in Indianapolis, an African-American woman was being carjacked in front of her home in her working class neighborhood. She ran back in the house, told her husband, who is also black, and they called the police to report the robbery. That seemed to be the right and safe thing to do.

As the police pulled up, the husband, who was later identified as 48-year-old Carl Williams, opened the garage to their home and was immediately shot in the gut by police."

Now imagine that a black guy was at a school and some white punk started killing kids.  The black guy charges the punk and knocks him out and disarms him.  The trigger happy cops barge in and sees the black guy standing there over the bloody white punk with the punk's gun.   Guess what happens?  The black guy gets filled with hot lead and the thug cops take the white killer for a hamburger.  Then the chief cop and DA say that the cops "feared for their lives" and that the murder of the black guy was justified because he had a gun pointed at them.

[Amarok]

Okay now your anti cop rhetoric has hit slightly unreasonable levels .And instances like this are far from common .