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Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
(February 22, 2018 at 11:52 pm)JMT Wrote:
(February 22, 2018 at 7:25 pm)Mathilda Wrote: America is not the world.

You are displaying typical theist binary thinking in saying that it's either weapons or not having weapons. Fact is you can kill and wound more people more quickly with an AR 15 than with a hand gun or a bread knife.
Where did I say America is the world? Wow!

Where did I say it’s weapons or no weapons? Wow!

Your fact says nothing more than what I already stated in this thread in another post where I agreed. However, The point of my original post wasn’t the number of people a weapon can kill. Simply that even if you took all weapons away people would kill. And it’s highly possible that they could devise methods that would kill more people over time due to stealth. Methods devised due to pressures.

Yet that doesn't happen in the rest of the world where guns are banned.

If your reason for not acting is that you can't come up with a perfect solution then you will always have the worst outcome.
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
More food for thought perhaps ?

Florida school shooting: Armed officer 'did not confront killer'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43164634
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
(February 23, 2018 at 2:30 am)possibletarian Wrote:
(February 23, 2018 at 2:07 am)Minimalist Wrote: We know that.  Try getting through your thick head that what we are talking about is efficiency.  There is a reason why 2/3 of all homicides involve guns.  Killing people is the one thing they do well.

You know, relating things like bread knives, cutlery, which does have a perfectly good purpose and is designed for eating or some other useful reason with a object designed to fire a projectile to kill is beyond reason.

(February 22, 2018 at 11:52 pm)JMT Wrote:
(February 22, 2018 at 7:25 pm)Mathilda Wrote: America is not the world.

You are displaying typical theist binary thinking in saying that it's either weapons or not having weapons. Fact is you can kill and wound more people more quickly with an AR 15 than with a hand gun or a bread knife.
Quote:Where did I say America is the world? Wow!

Where did I say it’s weapons or no weapons? Wow!

Your fact says nothing more than what I already stated in this thread in another post where I agreed. However, The point of my original post wasn’t the number of people a weapon can kill. Simply that even if you took all weapons away people would kill. And it’s highly possible that they could devise methods that would kill more people over time due to stealth. Methods devised due to pressures.

Wow. I think some folks on here are just trying to prod people to get a rise. LOL

Yes of course people would use other ways to kill,  In the US there has been an average of a school shooting every week so far in 2018

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/f...any-so-far

However how can taking away the most deadly and popular method be a bad thing ?  I doubt there would have been 1/10 of the deaths had the person had to actually chase the victims down instead of having a device where you can stand in a doorway trapping people in a room and killing them one by one.

(February 22, 2018 at 11:22 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(February 22, 2018 at 5:48 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Cutlery is even more readily available than guns!

Birthday cake stabbing!

https://nypost.com/2017/11/22/brawl-over...-stabbing/

Quote:True enough. Knives are 5 times more likely than a gun to be used as the murder weapon. But the Ammophobics will say you cannot do a mass murder with a knife, which is also true. That's why they make rental vans and pressure cookers.


Simply not true:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1953...apon-used/
http://uk.businessinsider.com/mass-shoot...?r=US&IR=T

Handguns were by far the most popular murder weapon used in the US in 2016. That year 7,105 people were murdered with handguns. Knives or cutting instruments were the second most popular weapon used, with 1,604 murders committed with a knife.
Knives are too short range and you can defend yourself from them . Were no designed to kill people .

Pressure cookers requires to much prep time to be an effective weapon  is impossible to conceal on your person. And can be a danger to the killer . Need to know how to use it as a weapon effectively .

Vans and cars require a driver license and the ability to drive. prep time and opportunity . You can't really sneak up in a car . And there's a danger to the killer . 

Guns have none of these drawbacks . There easy to use . Easy to conceal . Long range . Hard to defend against . Require little prep . And are ready to use anytime anywhere . And minimally dangerous to the killer. And can be bought by anyone anytime .
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
Do y'all remember me?
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
(February 23, 2018 at 4:47 am)Dylan_Klebold Wrote: Do y'all remember me?

Fuck you, you miserable piece of subhuman filth.

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‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
(February 22, 2018 at 6:05 pm)JMT Wrote: But the usual way to repel a superior weapon is with an equal or superior weapon.

Yeah, because historically that's always worked so well.

Cold War, anyone?
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
It seems to me that if the people opposing gun control measures put as much effort into addressing the problems as they put into bloviating about why such measures are impossible, we might be at least halfway to a solution by now.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
(February 22, 2018 at 7:52 pm)possibletarian Wrote:
(February 22, 2018 at 11:08 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Fixed that for you.

I think that's possibly the most disappointing thing i have seen you say Neo.

I'm amazed when people say that because you would prefer that guns be taken from the population or have much stricter controls, than more guns be put in schools, that the conclusion is that you ask if people value their children.

What kind of twisted mind comes up with that. ?

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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
Holy jumping fucking shitballs. That's terrifying. Here, that kid couldn't legally buy ANY firearm, and could only use one under direct supervision of someone with a gun license. 

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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