Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil

[Whateverist]

Other people's problems really can be quite trivial.[/sarcasm]

[Catholic_Lady]

It seems an easy solution to this would just be to have different tiers in sports. So whether you're a man or woman, you'd be graded on your physical capability. Granted I'm sure there would be more men at the higher tiers, but we wouldn't have this particular problem anymore.

Another issue is, Tiffany apparently wants to be in sports, and sucks against the best men, so what other option does she have? If you kick her out of women sports, what is she supposed to do then?

If she clearly sucks against her biological sex, then she's not good enough and doesn't belong doing it. She can find something else to do with her life and just play for fun with her friends.

Like, you know, all the rest of us who like sports but aren't good enough to be in pro.... what are we gonna dooooooo????

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Other people's problems really can be quite trivial.[/sarcasm]

Like the problem of all those biological women having to compete and lose against a biological male in a women's competition?

[Silver]

For all those feminists who claim that women are capable of doing what men can do and even do it better, why the hell are they complaining? Clearly, if women only want to compete with other "biological" women, then they are not capable of performing better than men. What a tragedy, Shakespeare must be ecstatic.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Loool OK wow......
I know where this thread is going "oh it's OK to discriminate against trans women, they're not real women or what will the real women do against such fierce competition. I knew this would happen one day but it only took a basketball game for the home to change to away. Good to know who's in support of what and who isn't though.

[Seraphina]

Its bad enough that weak women have to deal with the likes of Serena William and all those strong real women, now their issues are being compounded with all this tran stuff. Women are too weak to deal with this. And we need them to keep thinking they are.

This.
I would kudos that 1,000 times if I could.

-Teresa

[FFaith]

They're not 100 % women. Their gender is female, but their sex is male. Sports are separated by sex, not gender, or at least that's how it should be (unless a bio woman is good enough to compete against the men, then go right ahead). Yes, that might not be fair to the trans women when it comes to sports, but life's not fair, and that's something they should already know very well, seeing as they were born the wrong sex.

[Seraphina]

They're not 100 % women. Their gender is female, but their sex is male. Sports are separated by sex, not gender, or at least that's how it should be (unless a bio woman is good enough to compete against the men, then go right ahead). Yes, that might not be fair to the trans women when it comes to sports, but life's not fair, and that's something they should already know very well, seeing as they were born the wrong sex.

Except as mh pointed out the link in the OP doesn't have enough facts to formulate an informed opinion on this matter. (It reads more like a click-baity editorial.) Did the volleyball player go through reassignment surgery or are they on hormones?
Any conclusion reached with such spotty information is tenuous at best.

-Teresa

[Cecelia]

First of all, calling Tiffany a 'man' is ignorant. But it's not surprising seeing who it's coming from. The Anti-LGBT crowd refuses to recognize anything that isn't their definition of normal. (Which is mainly talking to an invisible man in the sky who talks back to them sometimes. Hearing voices in my world isn't normal) Though I suppose it's a good thing they show their ignorance, so we can know to ignore them and their stupidity.

Secondly, Tiffany Abreu was actually very talented before she transitioned. She won several trophies before transitioning. After transitioning, her testosterone levels reached low enough levels for legal competition in the women's league. She didn't transition because she couldn't compete in the men's tournament. She transitioned because she was born the wrong sex. If this invisible man of yours really exists, he fucked up royally with Ms. Abreu and all the other transgender individuals in the world.

I see no problem with her competing in the women's league, as long as her testosterone levels have reached the appropriate level. Whatever advantages she has from her per-transitional period are offset by disadvantages from that same transition. Ideally, she would have transitioned earlier in life, which would have minimized any advantages she might have. Of course our good Christian friends don't want that because the idea of transgender people freaks them out. Just like gay people do--only now they know we're not going to be readily accepting of their hate. They hope that we'll just accept their transgender hate (because they have to hate someone, right? How else will they show how Christian they are?)

[Amarok]

Sorry CL it's not common sense we have already been over this . It does not matter how many times you repeat it your still wrong . And no crying SJW at every comment will not work . This has F all to do with that. There is zero evidence trans men or woman have a significant advantage neither you or any proponent of that position were able make a case .

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First of all, calling Tiffany a 'man' is ignorant.  But it's not surprising seeing who it's coming from.  The Anti-LGBT crowd refuses to recognize anything that isn't their definition of normal.  (Which is mainly talking to an invisible man in the sky who talks back to them sometimes.  Hearing voices in my world isn't normal) Though I suppose it's a good thing they show their ignorance, so we can know to ignore them and their stupidity.  

Secondly, Tiffany Abreu was actually very talented before she transitioned.  She won several trophies before transitioning.  After transitioning, her testosterone levels reached low enough levels for legal competition in the women's league.  She didn't transition because she couldn't compete in the men's tournament.  She transitioned because she was born the wrong sex.  If this invisible man of yours really exists, he fucked up royally with Ms. Abreu and all the other transgender individuals in the world.

I see no problem with her competing in the women's league, as long as her testosterone levels have reached the appropriate level.  Whatever advantages she has from her per-transitional period are offset by disadvantages from that same transition.  Ideally, she would have transitioned earlier in life, which would have minimized any advantages she might have.  Of course our good Christian friends don't want that because the idea of transgender people freaks them out.  Just like gay people do--only now they know we're not going to be readily accepting of their hate.  They hope that we'll just accept their transgender hate (because they have to hate someone, right?  How else will they show how Christian they are?)

Kudos times 1000

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They're not 100 % women. Their gender is female, but their sex is male. Sports are separated by sex, not gender, or at least that's how it should be (unless a bio woman is good enough to compete against the men, then go right ahead). Yes, that might not be fair to the trans women when it comes to sports, but life's not fair, and that's something they should already know very well, seeing as they were born the wrong sex.

Except as mh pointed out the link in the OP doesn't have enough facts to formulate an informed opinion on this matter. (It reads more like a click-baity editorial.) Did the volleyball player go through reassignment surgery or are they on hormones?
Any conclusion reached with such spotty information is tenuous at best.

-Teresa

Yup just empty trans bashing

[paulpablo]

Its bad enough that weak women have to deal with the likes of Serena William and all those strong real women, now their issues are being compounded with all this tran stuff. Women are too weak to deal with this. And we need them to keep thinking they are.

Even Serena Williams was beaten by a man ranked 203rd best male player in the world