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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
March 1, 2018 at 4:40 pm
(March 1, 2018 at 4:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (March 1, 2018 at 4:20 pm)shadow Wrote: This is exactly right; I totally agree with CL in this thread. It takes a hell of a lot of work to get to being a competitive athlete. I've put thousands of hours into track, and I know that all of my competitors put that much time into training as well, and that's the whole fun of the competition. The thought that a massive group of people - all biological men - could enter with a fixed advantage makes it so my work is completely wasted. Why bother training if I'll never have a shot at winning? There's absolutely no need to destroy women's sport like that just to be politically correct.
This kind of anti-competition argument is one of those things that really bothers me about the left.
Then you got suckered. If we let women and men compete in endurance sports openly and at commensurate levels, females would invariably win out. The conditions of the endurance game, x y and z, favor females, not males.
Lol, like I've never run distance with guys before? I've trained with guys my whole life, in all types of runs, from 100m to 20km. From my experience I'll agree men and women are much closer in endurance running than sprints or throws, but a)that's not what I want to compete in, and b)I just won't beat guys my age if we both train the same amount. I distinctly remember in a half marathon that I ran that I placed significantly better among the women than the general group.
Quote:I put my entire childhood into running...even today with a fucked up leg I;d put money on myself instead of the next random 100 joes because I'll run until and after I puke or shit myself...........but Ilm not going to bet on me if I had to race against female olympians because I'd lose even at my best, which I haven't been for 20 years.
Yeah, maybe you won't beat female olympians. I have no doubt I could outrun a weak or out of shape man easily. But once we both train competitively, I'm going to lose. That's the whole point - it's not about averages. It's about an extremely high level of competition where everyone is using every advantage they have.
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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
March 1, 2018 at 4:40 pm
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(March 1, 2018 at 4:29 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: On another note there's a female dominating female wrestling, just won 2nd state championship, but she is trans and is allowed to take testosterone which clearly gives her an advantage over everyone else.
Clearly, huh? As in clearly over males who also take testosterone?
(March 1, 2018 at 4:40 pm)shadow Wrote: Yeah, maybe you won't beat female olympians. I have no doubt I could outrun a weak or out of shape man easily. But once we both train competitively, I'm going to lose. That's the whole point - it's not about averages. It's about an extremely high level of competition where everyone is using every advantage they have.
Not against me you wont, lol. I destroyed my knees in service (fucking de-stroyed..as in, blew them apart). I cant take a step without shooting pain. IDK, if the game was running until you actually die maybe I'd win..just because I don't like to lose ( but hey, I don';t know you..maybe you're fuckin crazier than I am).......but once upon a time I warmed up with 20 mile laps...today...I can't make it to the mailbox.
In the "extremely high" level of competition there are three men in the whole world faster than some girl. I'm not one of them, and I never was, despite being an all-state athlete in multiple sports. I've -never- posted olympic times, or ultra times, no matter how badly I smoked the competition male or female. Those fuckers....peen or no peen, were just better than I ever was.
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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
March 1, 2018 at 4:52 pm
(March 1, 2018 at 4:40 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (March 1, 2018 at 4:29 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: On another note there's a female dominating female wrestling, just won 2nd state championship, but she is trans and is allowed to take testosterone which clearly gives her an advantage over everyone else.
Clearly, huh? As in clearly over males who also take testosterone? What are you talking about? It's a female wrestling other females, she's trans, so shes allowed to essentially take steroids to become more masculine, that's a clear advantage over the rest of the females.
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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
March 1, 2018 at 4:56 pm
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That's not how transitioning works you fucking nub, lol. M-f trans take estrogen synths, not T. They have lower testosterone levels than natural females as a product of their transition. You do you, and keep saying stupid shit if it helps.
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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
March 1, 2018 at 5:02 pm
(March 1, 2018 at 4:56 pm)Khemikal Wrote: That's not how transitioning works you fucking nub, lol. M-f trans take estrogen synths, not T. They have lower testosterone levels than natural females as a product of their transition. You do you, and keep saying stupid shit if it helps.
He said f-m trans. A born female taking testosterone to become male. But still wrestling females. Has a 32-0 record btw. (If it's the same case we are talking about)
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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
March 1, 2018 at 5:06 pm
(March 1, 2018 at 4:56 pm)Khemikal Wrote: That's not how transitioning works you fucking nub, lol. M-f trans take estrogen synths, not T. They have lower testosterone levels than natural females as a product of their transition. You do you, and keep saying stupid shit if it helps.
how many time must i make it clear this person was born female and is transitioning into a man hence the testosterone? According to the rules you have to wrestle according to whats on your birth certificate, hence why I refer to her as a female, because that's what she is biologically.
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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
March 1, 2018 at 5:06 pm
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@SA
Yet another example of how easily you're taken as a rube. 
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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
March 1, 2018 at 5:08 pm
(March 1, 2018 at 5:02 pm)SaStrike Wrote: (March 1, 2018 at 4:56 pm)Khemikal Wrote: That's not how transitioning works you fucking nub, lol. M-f trans take estrogen synths, not T. They have lower testosterone levels than natural females as a product of their transition. You do you, and keep saying stupid shit if it helps.
He said f-m trans. A born female taking testosterone to become male. But still wrestling females. Has a 32-0 record btw. (If it's the same case we are talking about)
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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
March 1, 2018 at 5:09 pm
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@ Huggs... for clarity.......are you positing that females who take T have an advantage over "natural males".....?
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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
March 1, 2018 at 5:10 pm
(March 1, 2018 at 5:06 pm)Khemikal Wrote: @SA
Yet another example of how easily you're taken as a rube.
How or why? You assumed m-f and that wasn't the case? But somehow I'm still wrong. It really is a lose lose situation when going up against the best debater on the forum.
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