Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

[Angrboda]

Extending the definition of fraud to cover religious claims would appear to be one way that the government could deter religious confidence schemes. But I'm not suggesting it is a good idea. When it comes to religion, so long as the government doesn't sanction one over the others, I think it best to leave it alone. For most people, most of the time, religion doesn't really do much actual harm.

Wow. Quite the conclusion given 5,000 years of war thanks mostly to religion.

I guess that you have not noticed the homophobia and misogyny that is still rife in the world thanks again, mostly to religions.

I guess that you do not have any gays or women in your family. If you did, they would slap you silly as they have been discriminated against without a just cause by religions forever and are religions longest running victim.

And I have not even mentioned Inquisitions, Jihads and Holy wars.

I think you're getting off track here. The subject is fraud, not harm in general.

[brewer]

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Why should children expect an inheritance?

You sound like a spoiled brat. Are you a chronic victim?

It is not the expectations that should come to mind. It is how an adult will sit back and even let his own mother get robbed without lifting a God damn finger.

Thanks for not getting it. Try thinking like a guy who would have been the 4th generation on that farm.

Never mind.
I will take your mothers address though seeing as how you would not give a damn if I went and defrauded her.

Regards
DL

I wouldn't sit back but also wouldn't have stopped her if it made her happy or gave her some feeling of enhanced quality of life. I had no business dictating her life or what she chose to do with her money. Neither do you. Neither does any child. 

The story might be different if she were not in control of her mental faculties. She was, until about the last 4 months. 

My moms address is Ft. McPherson cemetery. Go for it.

[Greatest I am]

Easy, because being an esoteric ecumenist, I can choose the best rules and laws to live by regardless of the religion or ideology, including atheism, and always end with the best ideology because it takes the best rules regardless of where they come from.

What could possibly be better than that, in terms of mind set?

Regards
DL

Are you aware that you can do all of that without choosing any religion at all? 

 
Yes. But this is not just about me and many do not do as I do.

If that's the goal..though, the choice to be a gnostic christian becomes even more mystifying.  Are you entirely sure that you know what gnostic christianity was..........? 

No. I am not sure, and it matters little because it is a religion that allows itself to evolve over time thanks to new and better modern ideas. I can cherry pick my own religion, or what our enemies wrote of it, and throw out the garbage that has been written of it by the liars that won the God wars.

Perhaps you could provide a very brief summary of what the gnostic christian belief set entails, as you see it?

That is tough but I am trying. meet me here if you like. I was asked the same question and have put a fair bit of material there.

 https://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,50037.0.html

If the mods do not like that I reference another site, apologies to all.

Regards
DL

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Wow. Quite the conclusion given 5,000 years of war thanks mostly to religion.

I guess that you have not noticed the homophobia and misogyny that is still rife in the world thanks again, mostly to religions.

I guess that you do not have any gays or women in your family. If you did, they would slap you silly as they have been discriminated against without a just cause by religions forever and are religions longest running victim.

And I have not even mentioned Inquisitions, Jihads and Holy wars.

I think you're getting off track here.  The subject is fraud, not harm in general.

I hear you but if one cannot see the great harm that have come out of religions, one will not see the harm of open and apparent fraud as they would be showing a poor moral sense from the get go. 

Regards
DL

[The Grand Nudger]

Yeah, no thanks.  

To the invitation to meander around some other board where you demonstrate that you do';t know what gnostic christianity is or was....

To the rationalization that picking this religion somehow allows you to do something that has nothing to do with picking that religion

......and to the idea that we regulate fraudulent religions (or just religion in general) in any more stringent sense than we already do.

One wonders whether or not this thing is working for you as intended..if this is the end product of picking all the best stuff.

[Greatest I am]

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It is not the expectations that should come to mind. It is how an adult will sit back and even let his own mother get robbed without lifting a God damn finger.

Thanks for not getting it. Try thinking like a guy who would have been the 4th generation on that farm.

Never mind.
I will take your mothers address though seeing as how you would not give a damn if I went and defrauded her.

Regards
DL

I wouldn't sit back but also wouldn't have stopped her if it made her happy or gave her some feeling of enhanced quality of life. I had no business dictating her life or what she chose to do with her money. Neither do you. Neither does any child. 

The story might be different if she were not in control of her mental faculties. She was, until about the last 4 months. 

My moms address is Ft. McPherson cemetery. Go for it.

So a good son, to you, would allow his mother to be a victim of fraud. Ok.

Regards
DL

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Yeah, no thanks.  

To the invitation to meander around some other board where you demonstrate that you do';t know what gnostic christianity is or was....

To the rationalization that picking this religion somehow allows you to do something that has nothing to do with picking that religion

......and to the idea that we regulate fraudulent religions in any more stringent sense than we already do.

One wonders whether or not this thing is working for you as intended..if this is the end product of picking all the best stuff.

You asked, I gave, you refused what you asked for.

Ok.

Regards
DL

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I wouldn't sit back but also wouldn't have stopped her if it made her happy or gave her some feeling of enhanced quality of life. I had no business dictating her life or what she chose to do with her money. Neither do you. Neither does any child. 

The story might be different if she were not in control of her mental faculties. She was, until about the last 4 months. 

My moms address is Ft. McPherson cemetery. Go for it.

So a good son, to you, would allow his mother to be a victim of fraud. Ok.

Regards
DL

And a good son to you means a son gets to tell the parents how/what to think, feel and act so that the sons best interests are put first.

What a guy.

[GODZILLA]

I say no. I say this because I feel people should be able to choose their beliefs no matter how insane they may seem. But, I do think that people should not be allowed to put their religion into government. i.e. using religious based legislation to ban things such as abortion, or gay marriage and even prostitution. Now, if that religion advocates terrorism and carries it out like the Manson family, then they need to be declared a terrorist organization. It would be very difficult to do this with Islam because there are obviously many Muslims who are good people and have no intention of harming others who don't share their same beliefs. Same goes with Christianity. There are probably several Christian groups that advocate terrorism behind the guise of religion.

[Succubus]

...And his con game and abuse of our weakest and most gullible is all ignored.

Nice world we are building eh?

It seems we collectively think that freedom of speech should allow freedom to steal.

Regards
DL

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Remember James Randi's takedown of this arsehole.
The fact that Popoff still rakes in money tells you everything you need to know about the devoutly religious, they deserve every shafting they get. It's also a pretty good indicator that attempting to regulate what the wilfully ignorant can and can not believe is an utterly futile proposition.

I think if you are unfortunate enough to be the victim of fraud...

Regards
DL

Greatest I am: one of the interwebz most accomplished trolls.
How long is it now you've been spamming this same shite, 20+ years? That's quite an achievement. Kudos.