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RE: Hypothetical For Gun Rights Advocates
March 29, 2018 at 11:06 am
(March 29, 2018 at 10:32 am)mh.brewer Wrote: (March 28, 2018 at 8:13 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Ha, gl with that. The government only talks about "fair market value" when -you're- the one footing the bill. Expect them to pay by the pound in pennies.
(that way they can turn a tidy profit when they sell them to third world despots)
Solution, let us sell them directly to the third world despots, like a Craigslist or something. The gov can approve the buyers list and pay the shipping.
Except retrofit all the wheel guns to look like this-
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RE: Hypothetical For Gun Rights Advocates
March 29, 2018 at 4:47 pm
(March 28, 2018 at 5:56 pm)Hammy Wrote: Keep all the guns and remove all possible ammunition
Ammunition is pretty trivially easy to make at home.
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RE: Hypothetical For Gun Rights Advocates
March 29, 2018 at 5:07 pm
I think on the Australian gun buyback, about a third complied, but it was all voluntary. I doubt that gun rights advocates would mostly keep a few select pieces to themselves, when they cooperated at all.
I don't think the USA could afford to buy back all those firearms at fair market value, though.
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RE: Hypothetical For Gun Rights Advocates
March 29, 2018 at 5:26 pm
(This post was last modified: March 29, 2018 at 5:33 pm by Anomalocaris.)
It would still cost less than trump’s border wall to buy back 100 million firearms. By trump’s own tacit admission, the pentagon is overfunded by an amount equal to the cost of the border wall, or thecost of 100 million fire arms, and can afford to forsake that much in order to keep young immigrants out who might otherwise try to enlist.
Btw, I strongly suspect the pentagon can save far more American lives by spending $18 billion buying back private guns than it could ever expect to by investing that in arms, soldiers, or even operations.
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RE: Hypothetical For Gun Rights Advocates
March 29, 2018 at 5:55 pm
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(March 29, 2018 at 5:07 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: I think on the Australian gun buyback, about a third complied, but it was all voluntary. I doubt that gun rights advocates would mostly keep a few select pieces to themselves, when they cooperated at all.
I don't think the USA could afford to buy back all those firearms at fair market value, though.
Yeah, that's why you have to focus on the problem guns first..which..conveniently, are old handguns....a targeted buyback like that would work for the same reason that criminals use them.
They're cheap.
@Anom....apparently he;s been tossing around the idea of having the military pay for the wall...which...honestly, if we're going to have a wall and overfund "defense"...yeah..sure, go for it.
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RE: Hypothetical For Gun Rights Advocates
March 30, 2018 at 2:58 am
The thing about this hypothetically is that it doesn't take a high rate of noncompliance to cause major major problems. Even 99.9% of people complied peacefully and .1% of people locked themselves in a cabin and said "from my cold dead hands" you are going to have a way bigger problem then what you are trying to fix.
It's a pointless hypothetical though, because it's not the world we live in, and how many atheist forums people even own assault rifles?
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RE: Hypothetical For Gun Rights Advocates
March 30, 2018 at 6:48 am
There is not going to be a law that everybody will accept, but hopefully we can come up with a law that slows down the killing somewhat. I don't hope for better in the current political climate.
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RE: Hypothetical For Gun Rights Advocates
March 30, 2018 at 7:34 pm
(March 28, 2018 at 12:31 pm)wallym Wrote: Never owned a gun. There's safety in money.
But it's the thief with a gun who robs you of your money, unless your bank roll shoots back.
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RE: Hypothetical For Gun Rights Advocates
March 30, 2018 at 7:53 pm
(March 30, 2018 at 2:58 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: The thing about this hypothetically is that it doesn't take a high rate of noncompliance to cause major major problems. Even 99.9% of people complied peacefully and .1% of people locked themselves in a cabin and said "from my cold dead hands" you are going to have a way bigger problem then what you are trying to fix.
It's a pointless hypothetical though, because it's not the world we live in, and how many atheist forums people even own assault rifles?
-got rid of mine last year..and as far as I know, I was the only one who owned a legit assualt rifle.
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RE: Hypothetical For Gun Rights Advocates
March 30, 2018 at 7:56 pm
(March 30, 2018 at 2:58 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: It's a pointless hypothetical though, because it's not the world we live in, and how many atheist forums people even own assault rifles?
One doesn't need to own an assault rifle to have an opinion on the weapon.
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