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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 1, 2018 at 1:24 am
(April 1, 2018 at 1:20 am)Godscreated Wrote: (March 31, 2018 at 7:32 am)Jehanne Wrote: I don't know who these Biblical scholars are; do you believe that most Biblical scholars are inerrantists, such as yourself? For instance, why shouldn't I accept the Gospel of Peter? Unlike Matthew, Mark, Luke and Gospel, it claims, explicitly, to have been written by the Apostle Peter. Or, for that matter, the Gospel of Thomas?
The biblical scholars I'm speaking of are those who originally put the Bible together, going through every available manuscript and finding those that were in agreement with each other and tossing the ones that were not or were obviously contradicting the teachings of Christ. The Jews put together most of the OT, that is what Jesus and His disciples taught from. The men who wrote the books of the NT had no idea those books and letters would ever end up in a book like the Bible and I would say some would have been surprised their writings lasted long enough to be available for consideration. Ultimately God lead these men(biblical scholars) to the decisions of which books would make up the Bible and it has been sufficient for many a years before some of these other letters and books were found. I personally know little of the other gospels that have come to light, I trust in the array of men and women who determine whether the other writings should become part of the bible or used as teaching aids. I have enough to do with trying to understand our present day Bible, it is an endless wealth of information for those who seek God's truth. Yes I do believe most biblical scholars are inerrantists, at least those who are concerned with the truth from God.
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 1, 2018 at 1:34 am
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(March 31, 2018 at 4:41 am)chimp3 Wrote: (March 30, 2018 at 11:42 pm)Godscreated Wrote: It might behoove you to find some respect for the God who gave you life on this planet and wants you to enjoy life eternal with Him. It's your decision and you will be held accountable for that decision. As for the fear tactics, I was only telling you what could be.
GC You are simply playing the hellfire card because you are out of shit.
I could write you pages on why you should accept Christ as your savior, but you and I both know you've heard those things and you rejected them. I actually do not see anything in my previous post about hell, only accountability and that can go to either side of the situation, don't you agree. Actually I see what was said and it is " God want's you to enjoy eternity with Him.
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(April 1, 2018 at 1:24 am)chimp3 Wrote: (April 1, 2018 at 1:20 am)Godscreated Wrote: The biblical scholars I'm speaking of are those who originally put the Bible together, going through every available manuscript and finding those that were in agreement with each other and tossing the ones that were not or were obviously contradicting the teachings of Christ. The Jews put together most of the OT, that is what Jesus and His disciples taught from. The men who wrote the books of the NT had no idea those books and letters would ever end up in a book like the Bible and I would say some would have been surprised their writings lasted long enough to be available for consideration. Ultimately God lead these men(biblical scholars) to the decisions of which books would make up the Bible and it has been sufficient for many a years before some of these other letters and books were found. I personally know little of the other gospels that have come to light, I trust in the array of men and women who determine whether the other writings should become part of the bible or used as teaching aids. I have enough to do with trying to understand our present day Bible, it is an endless wealth of information for those who seek God's truth. Yes I do believe most biblical scholars are inerrantists, at least those who are concerned with the truth from God.
GC
Lighten up! It's April Fools Day!
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And God says through His word you are the one being foolish and this is not a joking matter as you seem to believe it is, it's real and eternal.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 1, 2018 at 1:56 am
(April 1, 2018 at 1:34 am)Godscreated Wrote: (March 31, 2018 at 4:41 am)chimp3 Wrote: You are simply playing the hellfire card because you are out of shit.
I could write you pages on why you should accept Christ as your savior, but you and I both know you've heard those things and you rejected them. I actually do not see anything in my previous post about hell, only accountability and that can go to either side of the situation, don't you agree. Actually I see what was said and it is " God want's you to enjoy eternity with Him.
GC
Lighten up! It's April Fools Day!
And God says through His word you are the one being foolish and this is not a joking matter as you seem to believe it is, it's real and eternal.
GC
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 1, 2018 at 4:48 am
(April 1, 2018 at 1:20 am)Godscreated Wrote: (March 31, 2018 at 7:32 am)Jehanne Wrote: I don't know who these Biblical scholars are; do you believe that most Biblical scholars are inerrantists, such as yourself? For instance, why shouldn't I accept the Gospel of Peter? Unlike Matthew, Mark, Luke and Gospel, it claims, explicitly, to have been written by the Apostle Peter. Or, for that matter, the Gospel of Thomas?
The biblical scholars I'm speaking of are those who originally put the Bible together, going through every available manuscript and finding those that were in agreement with each other and tossing the ones that were not or were obviously contradicting the teachings of Christ. The Jews put together most of the OT, that is what Jesus and His disciples taught from. The men who wrote the books of the NT had no idea those books and letters would ever end up in a book like the Bible and I would say some would have been surprised their writings lasted long enough to be available for consideration. Ultimately God lead these men(biblical scholars) to the decisions of which books would make up the Bible and it has been sufficient for many a years before some of these other letters and books were found. I personally know little of the other gospels that have come to light, I trust in the array of men and women who determine whether the other writings should become part of the bible or used as teaching aids. I have enough to do with trying to understand our present day Bible, it is an endless wealth of information for those who seek God's truth. Yes I do believe most biblical scholars are inerrantists, at least those who are concerned with the truth from God.
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Oh you mean the ones who listened to Constantine and arranged the bible to suit his political agenda or those who listened to James VI & I and rearranged it to suit his?
From its very beginnings the bible was a book tailored to political propoganda.
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 1, 2018 at 8:49 am
(April 1, 2018 at 1:20 am)Godscreated Wrote: (March 31, 2018 at 7:32 am)Jehanne Wrote: I don't know who these Biblical scholars are; do you believe that most Biblical scholars are inerrantists, such as yourself? For instance, why shouldn't I accept the Gospel of Peter? Unlike Matthew, Mark, Luke and Gospel, it claims, explicitly, to have been written by the Apostle Peter. Or, for that matter, the Gospel of Thomas?
The biblical scholars I'm speaking of are those who originally put the Bible together, going through every available manuscript and finding those that were in agreement with each other and tossing the ones that were not or were obviously contradicting the teachings of Christ. The Jews put together most of the OT, that is what Jesus and His disciples taught from. The men who wrote the books of the NT had no idea those books and letters would ever end up in a book like the Bible and I would say some would have been surprised their writings lasted long enough to be available for consideration. Ultimately God lead these men(biblical scholars) to the decisions of which books would make up the Bible and it has been sufficient for many a years before some of these other letters and books were found. I personally know little of the other gospels that have come to light, I trust in the array of men and women who determine whether the other writings should become part of the bible or used as teaching aids. I have enough to do with trying to understand our present day Bible, it is an endless wealth of information for those who seek God's truth. Yes I do believe most biblical scholars are inerrantists, at least those who are concerned with the truth from God.
GC
Things didn't work that way. It was not until the 4th century that a Roman church council decided, by fiat, which books were "inspired" and which were not, and nearly all modern scholars agree that they got their facts wrong. For instance, a criterion that Council used was "Apostolic authority" (an author had to have been a witness to Jesus' so-called "resurrection"), but scholars today know that Paul did not write the Pastoral epistles (Timothy, Titus, etc.), nor was the "John" of the Gospel the same individual as the John of the Revelation, etc. And, so, it was not scholars but 4th century churchmen who put the modern Bible together.
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April 1, 2018 at 9:44 am
Jehanne and Wololo... my favorites!!! Now all we need is Succubus to complete the trifecta...
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 1, 2018 at 10:03 am
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(April 1, 2018 at 1:20 am)Godscreated Wrote: ...The men who wrote the books of the NT had no idea those books and letters would ever end up in a book like the Bible...
GC, for once you've probably said something that's actually correct. If the gospel writers had any idea what movement they were setting in motion don't you think they would have made a better job of it? But then again how could they, none of them ever met Jebus. The gospels are the ravings of random no account anonymous nobodies.
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April 1, 2018 at 10:08 am
Oh yay, there he is!!! This thread has attracted ALL the good people.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 1, 2018 at 10:12 am
(April 1, 2018 at 10:08 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Oh yay, there he is!!! This thread has attracted ALL the good people.
Well now that you're here; why do non of the gospels give a birth date for your godman? Or are you just asking questions?
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 1, 2018 at 10:20 am
(April 1, 2018 at 10:12 am)Succubus Wrote: (April 1, 2018 at 10:08 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Oh yay, there he is!!! This thread has attracted ALL the good people.
Well now that you're here; why do non of the gospels give a birth date for your godman? Or are you just asking questions?
I'd rather talk about YOU and ME, baby!
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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