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NRA.... New Russian Allies.
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RE: NRA.... New Russian Allies.
(April 12, 2018 at 8:44 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(April 12, 2018 at 8:35 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: If I am reading correctly, basically you are promoting fake news, trying to make it out as more than it is, in order to further your agenda and irrational hatred of the NRA.   I think you need some tin foil glasses to go with your hat buddy!

Nothing fake about it at all asshole. 

17 WERE murdered in Parkland FLA. 50 plus people WERE murdered in Vegas. 20 kids and 6 teachers  WERE murdered in Newtown. 

The only thing "irrational" is you finding that violence acceptable. Damned right I hate the NRA, no I am not sorry, GO FUCK YOURSELF.

I don't find the violence acceptable at all... that is another one of your lies.   However; I don't irrationally blame the inanimate object either. 

Are you done pretending that this has anything to do with the fake news in the OP now?
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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#12
RE: NRA.... New Russian Allies.
(April 12, 2018 at 8:57 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(April 12, 2018 at 8:44 am)Brian37 Wrote: Nothing fake about it at all asshole. 

17 WERE murdered in Parkland FLA. 50 plus people WERE murdered in Vegas. 20 kids and 6 teachers  WERE murdered in Newtown. 

The only thing "irrational" is you finding that violence acceptable. Damned right I hate the NRA, no I am not sorry, GO FUCK YOURSELF.

I don't find the violence acceptable at all... that is another one of your lies.   However; I don't irrationally blame the inanimate object either. 

Are you done pretending that this has anything to do with the fake news in the OP now?

PROVE IT ASSHOLE, stop supporting that profit lobby. 

I am sick of this bullshit.

You have no godamned fucking clue what the NRA leadership is doing. It is the same profit protection racket CON that big oil pulled to keep lead in gas. The same crap they pull in protecting burning fossil fuels today. Same fucking tactic big tobacco used to protect bad marketing aimed at kids. ITS ABOUT FUCKING MONEY ASSHOLE, not rights, not safety. The NRA leadership is a heat shield used by the firearm companies to protect their profits. They and those companies DON'T GIVE ONE FUCK IF YOU DIE.

If you want less violence, supporting  A LOBBY like them WILL NOT reduce firearm violence.

I am 51 years old, I have been paying attention to their obstruction for over 30 years. The last time THE GOP gave a fuck about firearm violence Reagan and Brady got shot, but even then, the NRA did everything it could to undermine that bill and make it virtually useless.

THE MAJORITY of the country, INCLUDING MOST firearm owners WANT better vetting and better regulations.

Your fake concern is hollow to me if you support that blood lobby.
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#13
RE: NRA.... New Russian Allies.
(April 12, 2018 at 9:06 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(April 12, 2018 at 8:57 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don't find the violence acceptable at all... that is another one of your lies.   However; I don't irrationally blame the inanimate object either. 

Are you done pretending that this has anything to do with the fake news in the OP now?

PROVE IT ASSHOLE, stop supporting that profit lobby. 

I am sick of this bullshit.

You have no godamned fucking clue what the NRA leadership is doing. It is the same profit protection racket CON that big oil pulled to keep lead in gas. The same crap they pull in protecting burning fossil fuels today. Same fucking tactic big tobacco used to protect bad marketing aimed at kids. ITS ABOUT FUCKING MONEY ASSHOLE, not rights, not safety. The NRA leadership is a heat shield used by the firearm companies to protect their profits. They and those companies DON'T GIVE ONE FUCK IF YOU DIE.

If you want less violence, supporting  A LOBBY like them WILL NOT reduce firearm violence.

I am 51 years old, I have been paying attention to their obstruction for over 30 years. The last time THE GOP gave a fuck about firearm violence Reagan and Brady got shot, but even then, the NRA did everything it could to undermine that bill and make it virtually useless.

THE MAJORITY of the country, INCLUDING MOST firearm owners WANT better vetting and better regulations.

Your fake concern is hollow to me if you support that blood lobby.

Wait how did “big oil” get involved in this Russian $2,500 conspiracy of the NRA? Do the Russians give them a couple of Benjamin’s to push their agenda to the next level?

You might also note that I don’t support the NRA.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: NRA.... New Russian Allies.
If what the NRA promoted worked, we would not be number  #1 in firearm violence compared to our other wealthy 1rst world allies.

Now my suggestion is you ditch them, and if you really say you care, then listen to the movement that DOES really want to solve these problems. Get on board, or get the fuck out of the way. The NRA's leadership loves the fear and division. The companies sell more firearms every time violence makes national news. THEY LITERALLY PROFIT OFF OF DEATH.

But, if you think more of the same is working, you are the one being irrational, not me.

You don't support the NRA?

AWESOME. Then why the fuck are you talking like an apologist for them?

17 agencies AGREED Russia WAS interfering in OUR elections. Mark Zuckerburg also admitted Russia used his platform to interfere. FORMER Exxon CEO now in 45 cabinet constantly promoted deals with Russia. If you think that Russia wouldn't use the NRA to launder money, and you think that will be all they find, you underestimate Russia and THE NRA.

Gotti got away with crime for years too. 

I'd bet my life that there is more than just $2,500 going on.
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#15
RE: NRA.... New Russian Allies.
You didn’t answer my question. How does big oil tie in? Is that a part of or in addition to the $2,500 from Russia?
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: NRA.... New Russian Allies.
(April 12, 2018 at 9:31 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: You didn’t answer my question. How does big oil tie in? Is that a part of or in addition to the $2,500 from Russia?

Have you ever fucking paid attention to global economies and how they work?

1. FUEL
2. Banks
3. WEAPONS

That is how global politics works. All sides use their follower's ideologies to keep those in power in power. FEAR OF THE OTHER sells.


Control the resources, use money and weapons to protect those resources. Firearm companies are no fucking different. Create a lobby to protect your profits use ideology and fear to keep your narrative in control over those powers.


MONEY is the common denominator.


The firearm industries don't do anything differently than banks or oil companies. They are private businesses and their goal is to protect and or expand their market.

I JUST FUCKING TOLD YOU...... 45 has an X  EXXON CEO in his cabinet 

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/01/senate-c...state.html

^^^^^ That man has CONSISTENTLY advocated for Russian deals.

If you think $2,500 is all there is to this, you are fooling yourself.

WEAPONS, including firearms, but not just limited to, ARE TIED TO BANKS AND FUEL. All three of those industries are GLOBAL.
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#17
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What if Russia wasn’t buying magazine supcriptiond? What if that $2,500 was really for a death ray? With big oil and 45 ties in as well. You may be on to something here! Have you contacted the FBI?
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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#18
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It's scary how effective these news organizations can be riling up dopey people with headlines like these. The ones that present something minor, but do so in a way that allows a reader to interpret it as a major. They know perfectly well what the Brian's of the world are going to infer, and we end up with crazy people rants like this one.

The strategy works on what? 80% of the population at least? Probably more.
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#19
RE: NRA.... New Russian Allies.
(April 12, 2018 at 9:57 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: What if Russia wasn’t buying magazine supcriptiond?  What if that $2,500 was really for a death ray?  With big oil and 45 ties in as well. You may be on to something here!  Have you contacted the FBI?

Yep. Actually I did. Again, if the NRA is willing to lie about rate of injury and death in the home, and lie about cost of injury and death to tax payers. I am damned sure where there is smoke there is fire.

OH here is another TIDBIT for you 

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201...ompetition

^^^^^^^

Firearm makers DON'T GIVE A Fuck anywhere in the world.

(April 12, 2018 at 10:01 am)henryp Wrote: It's scary how effective these news organizations can be riling up dopey people with headlines like these.  The ones that present something minor, but do so in a way that allows a reader to interpret it as a major.  They know perfectly well what the Brian's of the world are going to infer, and we end up with crazy people rants like this one.

The strategy works on what?  80% of the population at least?  Probably more.



Yep crazy is wanting less firearm violence.  Dodgy

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201...ompetition

^^^^^^^^

MONEY is why the NRA leadership exists.

You can stupidly focus on $2,500 instead of the long term hostage holding the industry pumps into politics to protect profits.

I simply pointed this out because it is relevant to the bigger picture. They simply got caught this time. They'' get caught again now that this is on the radar.

NOW go read the article I just posted. 

THE NRA con's it's supporters using fear to protect profits.
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#20
RE: NRA.... New Russian Allies.
The amusing bit about all of this..is that the NRA isn't (and has never been) the profit arm of gun lobbying.  They maintained a political wedge in order to play republican kingmaker..but, quietly, year after year, the NSSF outspent the NRA and received more tit for tat for their lobbying efforts while reds and blues lost their shit over the issues and with each other on the back of NRA provocation.

Until 2016......when the NRA suddenly becomes flush with cash......somehow.  Rolleyes
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