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RE: What is wrong with FW?
July 31, 2018 at 10:26 am
(July 30, 2018 at 6:19 pm)Lucanus Wrote: (July 30, 2018 at 3:33 pm)Aegon Wrote: Thread to be renamed: "What is wrong with Little Rik?"
The latest installment of the blockbuster saga
I hope your studies proceed well Luc and you soon get your degree.
Oh, by the way please don't take it seriously if yog call idiots those who learn something from a teacher.
At the moment the woman is going through difficult times.
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RE: What is wrong with FW?
July 31, 2018 at 10:30 am
(July 30, 2018 at 3:10 pm)Astreja Wrote: I wonder what Rik's master would think if he could witness his behaviour towards others on this forum. He might wind up with a new mantra, something like this: मैं गाय गोबर के ढेर के रूप में पुनर्जन्म लेना चाहता हूं।
Pretty sure his 'master' was a dick as well as a discredited phony. But Rik has FW to follow him blindly if he wants.
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RE: What is wrong with FW?
July 31, 2018 at 10:45 am
(July 31, 2018 at 10:22 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (July 31, 2018 at 10:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: Oh, well in this case everybody is an idiot because everybody learn from a teacher but I guess only yog is not an idiot because yog is so so intelligent that she never need to learn from any teacher. ![Indubitably Indubitably](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/indubitably.gif)
Not what I said, dumbass, but by all means, keep reinforcing my point.
Well, well yog.
I have to admire your resolution in trying to get up after your continuous K.O. and try to resume the fightings.
When you live in the fairyland everything make sense even the non sense.
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RE: What is wrong with FW?
July 31, 2018 at 11:16 am
(July 31, 2018 at 10:45 am)Little Rik Wrote: (July 31, 2018 at 10:22 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Not what I said, dumbass, but by all means, keep reinforcing my point.
Well, well yog.
I have to admire your resolution in trying to get up after your continuous K.O. and try to resume the fightings.
When you live in the fairyland everything make sense even the non sense.
I don't think I've ever encountered such breathtaking stupidity before.
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RE: What is wrong with FW?
July 31, 2018 at 11:21 am
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(July 30, 2018 at 11:09 am)Khemikal Wrote: (July 22, 2018 at 10:06 am)Little Rik Wrote: Why atheists hate to hear that?
God or not God FREE WILL still affect our lives in the good or the bad so why atheists dislike to hear about it so much? ![Huh Huh](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/huh.gif)
So....is the assailant raping the girl of his own free will even as karma is using said assailant to punish said girl for kicking three dogs in a previous life...?
Could the assailant refuse to be the vehicle of karma..would karma then have to pick someone else? What if the second person in the resignation-chain just isn;t a rapist, does he karmicly become one so that justice can be fulfilled? Is he, then, karmicly accountable for his actions? I ask, because it sounds like we might be dealing with a firefighter who moonlights as an arsonist.
Or is it, ultimately, that the efficacy of the karmic vehicle is under our own control, such that..were enough people to refuse to conform to the karmic scheme...karmic satisfaction could be a non-event?
1) The problem with making so many suppositions and speculations like you do is that is very easy to get lost in a labyrinth especially if you never practice the art of intuition, beside what difference would make whether someone would have to experience his-her bad karma by a tile falling from the roof in your head, by being raped or by any other mishap?
2) Whether you believe in karma or not it wouldn't make any difference as far as the punishment is concerned but it would make a lot of difference if you understand that a debt must be repaid because in this case you do not build up that anger and rage that would only make the thing worse.
(July 31, 2018 at 11:16 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (July 31, 2018 at 10:45 am)Little Rik Wrote: Well, well yog.
I have to admire your resolution in trying to get up after your continuous K.O. and try to resume the fightings.
When you live in the fairyland everything make sense even the non sense.
I don't think I've ever encountered such breathtaking stupidity before.
Smile yog even if now you end up in a mental dead lane.
Sooner or later you will wake up and grow up so you will understand that plants turn into animals, animals into humans and humans into God and all your dogmas will end down in the rubbish bin of the past.
Good luck.
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RE: What is wrong with FW?
July 31, 2018 at 3:34 pm
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2018 at 3:38 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 31, 2018 at 11:21 am)Little Rik Wrote: (July 30, 2018 at 11:09 am)Khemikal Wrote: So....is the assailant raping the girl of his own free will even as karma is using said assailant to punish said girl for kicking three dogs in a previous life...?
Could the assailant refuse to be the vehicle of karma..would karma then have to pick someone else? What if the second person in the resignation-chain just isn;t a rapist, does he karmicly become one so that justice can be fulfilled? Is he, then, karmicly accountable for his actions? I ask, because it sounds like we might be dealing with a firefighter who moonlights as an arsonist.
Or is it, ultimately, that the efficacy of the karmic vehicle is under our own control, such that..were enough people to refuse to conform to the karmic scheme...karmic satisfaction could be a non-event?
1) The problem with making so many suppositions and speculations like you do is that is very easy to get lost in a labyrinth especially if you never practice the art of intuition, beside what difference would make whether someone would have to experience his-her bad karma by a tile falling from the roof in your head, by being raped or by any other mishap? ![Lightbulb Lightbulb](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/lightbulb.gif) What suppositions and speculations, specifically? I'm asking you..... Put up or shut up time, lol.
The difference it would make..is that if karma could require human compliance in order to be satisfied, and karma is always satisfied...then somebody is doing karma's bidding..... not their own.
Quote:2) Whether you believe in karma or not it wouldn't make any difference as far as the punishment is concerned but it would make a lot of difference if you understand that a debt must be repaid because in this case you do not build up that anger and rage that would only make the thing worse. ![Lightbulb Lightbulb](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/lightbulb.gif)
I asked about that, too..now didn't I? If the debt must be repaid, and someone has been made to do karmas bidding..are they now responsible for whatever karmic debt karma imposed upon them by using them as a tool to satisfy another's karmic debt?
You've never thought any of this through...have you? You asked, in your OP..for a problem with free will. Well, now you have one. Karma. Fate with necessary satisfaction. It's not -my- problem with free will. It's yours. Work that shit out.
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RE: What is wrong with FW?
July 31, 2018 at 3:39 pm
It's honestly shocking to me how much time some of you are willing to waste arguing with him.
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RE: What is wrong with FW?
August 1, 2018 at 9:42 am
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(July 31, 2018 at 3:34 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (July 31, 2018 at 11:21 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1) The problem with making so many suppositions and speculations like you do is that is very easy to get lost in a labyrinth especially if you never practice the art of intuition, beside what difference would make whether someone would have to experience his-her bad karma by a tile falling from the roof in your head, by being raped or by any other mishap? ![Lightbulb Lightbulb](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/lightbulb.gif) What suppositions and speculations, specifically? I'm asking you..... Put up or shut up time, lol.
The difference it would make..is that if karma could require human compliance in order to be satisfied, and karma is always satisfied...then somebody is doing karma's bidding.....not their own.
Quote:2) Whether you believe in karma or not it wouldn't make any difference as far as the punishment is concerned but it would make a lot of difference if you understand that a debt must be repaid because in this case you do not build up that anger and rage that would only make the thing worse. ![Lightbulb Lightbulb](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/lightbulb.gif)
I asked about that, too..now didn't I? If the debt must be repaid, and someone has been made to do karmas bidding..are they now responsible for whatever karmic debt karma imposed upon them by using them as a tool to satisfy another's karmic debt?
You've never thought any of this through...have you? You asked, in your OP..for a problem with free will. Well, now you have one. Karma. Fate with necessary satisfaction. It's not -my- problem with free will. It's yours. Work that shit out.
If God would use humans to sort out karma in people who deserve a punishment or rewards then these humans wouldn't acquire any karma for themselves but why God would do this considering that the free will allow people to think and act for themselves?
Obviously God doesn't use humans to deliver a punishment or a reward.
If however someone on his-her FW act in a way that deliver punishment or reward to other people then this someone is fully responsible for his-her actions and new karma is created for themselves beside karma can also be delivered by natural disasters such as earthquakes, floods, tsunami, drought or accidents of any sort or in case of positive karma in a multitude of different ways like winning at lottery or having a good life.
(July 31, 2018 at 3:39 pm)Aegon Wrote: It's honestly shocking to me how much time some of you are willing to waste arguing with him.
It's honestly shocking to me ............to see people like you coming in a thread that does not interest you and then whining about it.
Try area 69 maybe there you may find what you are looking for.
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RE: What is wrong with FW?
August 1, 2018 at 9:56 am
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(August 1, 2018 at 9:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: If God would use humans to sort out karma in people who deserve a punishment or rewards then these humans wouldn't acquire any karma for themselves but why God would do this considering that the free will allow people to think and act for themselves? They wouldn't? Well then, there are at least some karmic debts that -don't- need to be repayed..contrary to your previous assertion. Namely, the things god does (for whatever silly reason..including "why god why!"), or whatever one is compelled to do.
Quote:Obviously God doesn't use humans to deliver a punishment or a reward.
Yet another thing your silly god can't do, I guess.
Quote:If however someone on his-her FW act in a way that deliver punishment or reward to other people then this someone is fully responsible for his-her actions and new karma is created for themselves beside karma can also be delivered by natural disasters such as earthquakes, floods, tsunami, drought or accidents of any sort or in case of positive karma in a multitude of different ways like winning at lottery or having a good life. ![Lightbulb Lightbulb](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/lightbulb.gif)
The idea that a certain number of kicked dogs will lead to a tsunami will never not be funny.
Now, above..though you undoubtedly imagined yourself delivering some sort of apology for karma vis-a-vis free will by invocation of an inept god and your own ignorance regarding the whys of divinity.....you simply confirmed that it is a problem. OP question asked and answered...you're welcome.
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RE: What is wrong with FW?
August 1, 2018 at 10:31 am
(August 1, 2018 at 9:56 am)Khemikal Wrote: (August 1, 2018 at 9:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: If God would use humans to sort out karma in people who deserve a punishment or rewards then these humans wouldn't acquire any karma for themselves but why God would do this considering that the free will allow people to think and act for themselves? They wouldn't? Well then, there are at least some karmic debts that -don't- need to be repayed..contrary to your previous assertion. Namely, the things god does (for whatever silly reason..including "why god why!"), or whatever one is compelled to do.
Quote:Obviously God doesn't use humans to deliver a punishment or a reward.
Yet another thing your silly god can't do, I guess.
Quote:If however someone on his-her FW act in a way that deliver punishment or reward to other people then this someone is fully responsible for his-her actions and new karma is created for themselves beside karma can also be delivered by natural disasters such as earthquakes, floods, tsunami, drought or accidents of any sort or in case of positive karma in a multitude of different ways like winning at lottery or having a good life. ![Lightbulb Lightbulb](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/lightbulb.gif)
The idea that a certain number of kicked dogs will lead to a tsunami will never not be funny.
Now, above..though you undoubtedly imagined yourself delivering some sort of apology for karma vis-a-vis free will by invocation of an inept god and your own ignorance regarding the whys of divinity.....you simply confirmed that it is a problem. OP question asked and answered...you're welcome.
Your imagination and your assumptions are now out of control as you enter a labyrinth where the exit is nowhere to be found.
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