Eternal bliss

[Little Rik]

How do you know that God hate the oppressors?
How on earth can you hate something that you created?
If that would be the case then God wouldn't be God in the first place.
God is perfect therefore from something perfect can not possibly spring or born something that is not perfect.    

And being that doesn't hate oppressors is not worthy of worship. And he is most severe in retribution in the place of anger and vengeance and the most compassionate in the place of pardon and mercy!

Are you saying that a father should hate his children that do bad things and send them to hell or he is not worthy of worship?

Are you serious?  

And what about the pardon and mercy?
Who suppose to deserve pardon and who does not?

On one hand you got the hell.
On the other there is no hell.

It seem all very very confused in your religion.  

[Mystic]

And being that doesn't hate oppressors is not worthy of worship. And he is most severe in retribution in the place of anger and vengeance and the most compassionate in the place of pardon and mercy!

Are you saying that a father should hate his children that do bad things and send them to hell or he is not worthy of worship?

Are you serious?  

And what about the pardon and mercy?
Who suppose to deserve pardon and who does not?

On one hand you got the hell.
On the other there is no hell.

It seem all very very confused in your religion.  

There is nothing confusing except you are claiming you are confused. If love loves goodness it hates it's opposite, it's negation. Those who rebel against the Compassionate Lord, deserve hell.   Those who deserve hell but seek his pardon and seek his grace, will find him the most compassionate, and he will aide them through his mercy and help and power, in ways they could not imagine.

Those who love what has no value but is exact opposite, the negative value, the evil, as much or more then God, and mix good and evil, are the definition of injustice and evil, and their place is hell forever.

[Ravenshire]

to anyone familiar with Star Trek, you essentially become a Q...

So, your gawd wants to be surrounded by arrogant twats who's idea of a good time is fucking with lower life forms?

Fuck that.

[Little lunch]

Heaven is full of all the good things like brocolli and brussel sprouts and self control and none of the bad evil things like bacon and alcohol and kinky sex.
I think I'll go push an old lady in front of a bus...

What if we want broccoli and kinky sex? Limbo?

Kinky sex with broccoli whilst doing the Limbo.
You are invited to my next party.

[Abaddon_ire]

Really? What is YOUR position on contraception? Your's and yours alone, nobody else's. Tell me what that is, please.

Nah, I don't like the way you talk to me on these forums or what you say about me. Your demand for me to answer you here doesn't help either.

I will have to opt out of engaging with you, sorry.

Nope. What you really do not like is to have your cherished religious notions robustly challenged. So much so that you have no option but to run away. That's fine. But do not ever pretend that you are NOT running away. That is exactly what you are doing and nothing else.

[Cod]

I've come to the conclusion that these believers are not convinced about their blissful eternities, seems to me it's more the fear of hell or not existing that's the driving force here.

The original question was a simple one, or so I thought...

[robvalue]

Doing things out of fear of hell, while understandable, is not logical. There could be the reverse situation, where "God" sends people to hell for being Christian, being a theist, or whatever. So there are no safe options, when you are considering scenarios which have no evidence behind them in the first place.

[Little Rik]

Are you saying that a father should hate his children that do bad things and send them to hell or he is not worthy of worship?

Are you serious?  

And what about the pardon and mercy?
Who suppose to deserve pardon and who does not?

On one hand you got the hell.
On the other there is no hell.

It seem all very very confused in your religion.  

There is nothing confusing except you are claiming you are confused. If love loves goodness it hates it's opposite, it's negation. Those who rebel against the Compassionate Lord, deserve hell.   Those who deserve hell but seek his pardon and seek his grace, will find him the most compassionate, and he will aide them through his mercy and help and power, in ways they could not imagine.

Those who love what has no value but is exact opposite, the negative value, the evil, as much or more then God, and mix good and evil, are the definition of injustice and evil, and their place is hell forever.

Sorry MK but you keep on avoiding my question which is...................WOULD YOU SEND YOUR OWN KIDS (YOUR BLOOD) TO A PERMANENT HELL BECAUSE THEY DO SOMETHING BAD OR DO NOT BELIEVE IN YOU?  

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I've come to the conclusion that these believers are not convinced about their blissful eternities, seems to me it's more the fear of hell or not existing that's the driving force here.

The original question was a simple one, or so I thought...

1) Your original question is quite faulty and imperfect that is why is not possible to answer you with a yes or a not.  

Suppose a child is looking at a couple while they are kissing each other.
The child will think.........how stupid they are....  

At this stage in time the child can not understand why two lovers are doing that but as the child grows he will understand.
The same thing apply to love for God although this love is spiritual rather than physical.

How on earth is possible to explain to you with a yes or a not what bliss is all about considering that your understanding in spirituality is zero?  


2) Do not generalize.

Not all believers .............are not convinced about their blissful eternities........

[Cod]

I've come to the conclusion that these believers are not convinced about their blissful eternities, seems to me it's more the fear of hell or not existing that's the driving force here.

The original question was a simple one, or so I thought...

1) Your original question is quite faulty and imperfect that is why is not possible to answer you with a yes or a not.  

Suppose a child is looking at a couple while they are kissing each other.
The child will think.........how stupid they are....  

At this stage in time the child can not understand why two lovers are doing that but as the child grows he will understand.
The same thing apply to love for God although this love is spiritual rather than physical.

How on earth is possible to explain to you with a yes or a not what bliss is all about considering that your understanding in spirituality is zero?  


2) Do not generalize.

Not all believers .............are not convinced about their blissful eternities........

Read the original post titwank.

[Little Rik]

1) Your original question is quite faulty and imperfect that is why is not possible to answer you with a yes or a not.  

Suppose a child is looking at a couple while they are kissing each other.
The child will think.........how stupid they are....  

At this stage in time the child can not understand why two lovers are doing that but as the child grows he will understand.
The same thing apply to love for God although this love is spiritual rather than physical.

How on earth is possible to explain to you with a yes or a not what bliss is all about considering that your understanding in spirituality is zero?  


2) Do not generalize.

Not all believers .............are not convinced about their blissful eternities........

Read the original post titwank.

You are a total fool son.

How on earth can you explain to a child something that he is not able to understand yet?
First you have to grow up.
After that you may be able to understand.

Once you dump in the rubbish bin your dogma that the universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it then you may start to understand something.