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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 31, 2018 at 5:34 am
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(August 30, 2018 at 4:55 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: For those claiming that theistic beliefs mean a person is delusional, I assume you realize that 17% of people world wide are non religious. Do you really think 83% of the earth's population have delusional disorder?[...]
(August 30, 2018 at 10:04 pm)alpha male Wrote: As CL pointed out, it's generally accepted - over 80% - that some god is a reality. So, thanks for confirming that theism isn't a delusion.
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LOL... Yeah. And 2/3 of human population has herpes. That doesn't stop it from being a disease... 
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 31, 2018 at 5:35 am
However every time CL quotes or likes something that Troll Neo says it does make me question everything. 
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 31, 2018 at 5:54 am
Quote:Although CL called you out Jor,
Not really 
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 31, 2018 at 6:00 am
(August 31, 2018 at 5:54 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:Although CL called you out Jor,
Not really
I don't know what you mean by "not really"? CL mentioned Jor by name. None of the rest of us did. I personally wasn't talking to or about her.
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 31, 2018 at 6:06 am
This is all a bit silly and pointless, don't you think? I think everyone should apologize to everyone starting with me.
I'm sorry LR for calling you titwank.
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 31, 2018 at 6:09 am
(August 31, 2018 at 6:00 am)Aroura Wrote: (August 31, 2018 at 5:54 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Not really
I don't know what you mean by "not really"? CL mentioned Jor by name. None of the rest of us did. I personally wasn't talking to or about her. Oh yes she mentions her my point is her call out was not accurate
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 31, 2018 at 7:13 am
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(August 31, 2018 at 5:33 am)Aroura Wrote: Although CL called you out Jor, I wasn't responding to you. Your comments were much deeper and more nuanced than simple name calling.
I can't speak for Vulcan or LFC or course, but I do note that nobody quoted you when having this discussion.
It doesn't require quoting someone to make it plain who you're talking about. Since only me and Kit are arguing the point, it's pretty obvious who is meant.
(And for what it's worth, I don't really care that CL or anybody else mentions me. My understanding of the calling out rule is that it only applies to devoting a thread that way.)
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 31, 2018 at 8:11 am
(August 31, 2018 at 3:09 am)Kit Wrote: Calling a delusional person delusional is not an attack. It is referring to the truth.
It's also a claim; one that needs supported.
I think that we can disagree on something, and I don't call the other person deluded. So I believe that this term is saying more than that you disagree on the subject. So the questions then follow; what do you mean by this, and how did you come to that conclusion? What evidence or reasons would you posit for your claim of truth here?
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 31, 2018 at 8:14 am
Here we go again. Like you give a fuck about evidence or reason, lol.
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 31, 2018 at 8:19 am
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(August 31, 2018 at 1:39 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: .
I need to take a break from this site. Can only take so much of people talking down to me when I treat everyone with respect and consideration. It's tiring and gets old. Jor calling me stupid and saying she's laughing at me, and then multiple people insisting on calling me delusional after I already expressed that I don't like being called that.
Let's put it this way. Suppose someone says they believe that there are gnomes and unicorns in their garden. Those gnomes and unicorns are invisible, but they help the garden to grow. In fact, the garden wouldn't grow at all unless those gnomes and unicorns were there. Then, they point out that those gnomes and unicorns must actually exist because the garden does, in fact, grow.
Wouldn't you consider this person to be delusional?
I see theism as absolutely equivalent.
I'd add that the person involved might be the nicest, fairest, kindest person around. They may be otherwise unremarkable (or even remarkable). But on that one point, they are delusional. Not just mistaken, mind you.
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