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On Hell and Forgiveness
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
September 5, 2018 at 11:12 am (This post was last modified: September 5, 2018 at 11:13 am by Crossless2.0.)
(September 5, 2018 at 10:58 am)alpha male Wrote: Yep, or being blinded until going to a certain person and having them pray for you, then regaining sight.

Occipital lobe seizures can result in temporary blindness.
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
September 5, 2018 at 11:16 am (This post was last modified: September 5, 2018 at 11:28 am by Amarok.)
Quote:Yep, or being blinded until going to a certain person and having them pray for you, then regaining sight.
seizures can blind someone temporarily and the praying is just a coincidence and let's remember we only have Paul's word this happened and even  if it were not a seizure their are plenty of things he could have been suffering from to explain the hallucination he experienced and the others are not eyewitness so claiming they were there is not evidence .
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
September 5, 2018 at 11:35 am
(September 5, 2018 at 11:12 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Occipital lobe seizures can result in temporary blindness.

Sure can, but you're not claiming that what Paul reported can be explained by occipital lobe lobe epilepsy, are you?
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
September 5, 2018 at 11:38 am
(September 5, 2018 at 11:35 am)alpha male Wrote:
(September 5, 2018 at 11:12 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Occipital lobe seizures can result in temporary blindness.

Sure can, but you're not claiming that what Paul reported can be explained by occipital lobe lobe epilepsy, are you?

I'm not ruling it out.
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
September 5, 2018 at 11:41 am
(September 5, 2018 at 10:58 am)alpha male Wrote:
(September 4, 2018 at 9:41 pm)Bob Kelso Wrote: What is there other than the physical universe? I’m genuinely curious.

God, heaven, angels, etc.

Ok, and how do we know these things exists outside of the physical universe?
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
September 5, 2018 at 11:48 am
(September 5, 2018 at 11:41 am)Bob Kelso Wrote:
(September 5, 2018 at 10:58 am)alpha male Wrote: God, heaven, angels, etc.

Ok, and how do we know these things exists outside of the physical universe?

He read something found within the physical universe.
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
September 5, 2018 at 11:56 am (This post was last modified: September 5, 2018 at 11:57 am by Amarok.)
(September 5, 2018 at 11:41 am)Bob Kelso Wrote:
(September 5, 2018 at 10:58 am)alpha male Wrote: God, heaven, angels, etc.

Ok, and how do we know these things exists outside of the physical universe?

Or exist period
(September 5, 2018 at 11:48 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:
(September 5, 2018 at 11:41 am)Bob Kelso Wrote: Ok, and how do we know these things exists outside of the physical universe?

He read something found within the physical universe.

Written by physical  men
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
September 5, 2018 at 12:07 pm
(September 5, 2018 at 11:56 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
(September 5, 2018 at 11:41 am)Bob Kelso Wrote: Ok, and how do we know these things exists outside of the physical universe?

Or exist period
(September 5, 2018 at 11:48 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: He read something found within the physical universe.

Written by physical  men

. . . with divine antennae.
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
September 5, 2018 at 12:18 pm (This post was last modified: September 5, 2018 at 12:20 pm by John V.)
(September 5, 2018 at 11:38 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:
(September 5, 2018 at 11:35 am)alpha male Wrote: Sure can, but you're not claiming that what Paul reported can be explained by occipital lobe lobe epilepsy, are you?

I'm not ruling it out.

I doubt you've read a full description of such epilepsy then and compared it to Paul's account, because overall they don't match.
(September 5, 2018 at 11:41 am)Bob Kelso Wrote:
(September 5, 2018 at 10:58 am)alpha male Wrote: God, heaven, angels, etc.

Ok, and how do we know these things exists outside of the physical universe?

They sometime interact with people in the physical universe, and those people report the interactions.
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
September 5, 2018 at 12:28 pm
(September 5, 2018 at 12:18 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(September 5, 2018 at 11:38 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: I'm not ruling it out.

I doubt you've read a full description of such epilepsy then and compared it to Paul's account, because overall they don't match.

You mean Luke's three mutually incompatible accounts of Paul's alleged experience? Lol. 

I don't look at descriptions of medical events and expect them to square the exegetical circle of your holy book. Why would I?
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