Did you choose your God or inherit him?

[thesummerqueen]

I'll never tell how many are happy accidents and I just roll with them, and how many are quite deliberate.

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I do have some sweetness to me; I'm not all spice, y'know.

[The Grand Nudger]

To the OP: Neither, my grandmother ebayed them for me. You should see them sometime (they sure do love catfish).

[thesummerqueen]

If it's those two dolls you made Ryft and I laugh at, you have some 'splainin' to do.

[The Grand Nudger]

How dare you call them dolls. They are perfectly accurate representations of the subject. That's museum quality art right there Summer.
(you realize, of course, that they cannot abide blasphemy?)

[thesummerqueen]

[chokes on soda]

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The rest of you have no idea how fucking funny that response was.

[lucent]

It isn't accurate to say that I became a Christian on my own, as faith is a gift from God..however, in the sense that I investigated the various belief systems of this world to the fullest extent, and then some, then I will say yes, I came to it on my own. It was predicated on many years of revelation and the journey was experiential, with a lot of research mixed in. I even formally held gnostic beliefs about the demiurge. How I arrived at those views is a very interesting story, in itself.

Your post is loaded with assumptions, tired stereotypes, and your own blatant prejudices. If you want to ask a question that doesn't isn't punctuated with animosity, I'll clarify.

In the meantime, I'll ask you..how did you end up as a gnostic?

Did you choose your God or inherit him?

1 Thess4
Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

Statistics on religious knowledge are dismal for theists when compared with non theists. This indicates that their own religion is not important to theists and they only follow their God out of tradition and do not feel a need to actually know the theology behind their God. So much for a personal God that theists speak of.

This link shows how most Gods are blindly inherited.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYigmGyN2...e=youtu.be

Religion is primarily an external conscience for those who don't trust their own judgment. They say they do not judge God but only follow him as an external conscience and support any atrocities he perpetrates. These non judging people have judged their God to be good. They do not recognize their own contradiction.

Should theists not be comparing all religions to seek the best external conscience they can find?
Unless of course they have all found a better external conscience in secular government.
If so, why have a religion or tradition to hang on to?

Their religions have thus become without value as theist have already given Caesar everything and have left nothing for God except perhaps, lip service.

You and I wake up and follow natural law. We then proceed to follow secular law till we go to sleep. What laws of God do theists even consider at all during the day?

None that I can see.

Can theists, as users of God or the word as an external conscience, be actually called Christians when the laws they live by are pure secular in nature?

Should Christians call themselves Secularist, as that is the law they live by and not the laws of bible God?

Theists then seem to be hypocrites and this is good. Let’s thank the stars that theists are not foolish enough to follow their God and his laws. We could not afford to jail that many fools.

I submit that if you follow a religion that you did not actively choose, you are likely not a true believer in any sense of the word.
As others see this hypocrisy, they learn what it is like to be as you are and you are actively helping to kill your own religion.

Thanks for helping those against your own to reduce your numbers.
Like Noah and the God you follow, if you belong to one of the myriad Abrahamic sects, you are a traitor to your own kind by your poor example.

Regards
DL

[Epimethean]

Just here to call bullshit on lucent again. YOUR post is loaded with presumptions, and, as all of them are essentially subjective, let's default back the OP's questions, shall we? You seem still inclined to think that your fantasy/delusion/hallucination should get equal weight of consideration-or even pride of place-in a group primarily composed of agnostics and atheists. If you don't mind me asking, why do you feel that way?

[Greatest I am]

It isn't accurate to say that I became a Christian on my own, as faith is a gift from God..however, in the sense that I investigated the various belief systems of this world to the fullest extent, and then some, then I will say yes, I came to it on my own. It was predicated on many years of revelation and the journey was experiential, with a lot of research mixed in. I even formally held gnostic beliefs about the demiurge. How I arrived at those views is a very interesting story, in itself.

Your post is loaded with assumptions, tired stereotypes, and your own blatant prejudices. If you want to ask a question that doesn't isn't punctuated with animosity, I'll clarify.

In the meantime, I'll ask you..how did you end up as a gnostic?

That label was my best fit.

Both read the Bible day and night; but you read black where I read white.
William Blake.

I noted, after reading a number of Bibles and Words, that I fell into what that quote describes.

I E. Eden. Christians call becoming as Gods a fall.
I had always found that strange and found later that Jews, the original writers of those scriptures did not think it a fall either but an elevation.
Strange how they do not read their scriptures literally yet Christians, usurpers of the Jewish, God started to, and reversed their interpretations. Idiocy that.

You say that faith is a gift from God.
I say that faith without facts is for fools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPAC_cGVn...re=related

You are a sheep and I am a goat so the animosity you will always see. Live with it or ignore me. Do not expect respect.

Are you so fearful and faithless that you would doubt this---

2 Peter 3:9 KJ
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

to the point of doing the immoral thing and ignoring this--------

Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

And that you would expect God to ignore it as well, as this----

Psalm 49:7
None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:

and join you in your immoral quest to try to profit from the murder of his own son by accepting a ransom?

You would have God do the immoral thing just to save your sorry ass. How droll.

Above is a clear logic trail. Follow it and change your ways of calling evil good.

It is evil to try to profit from murder.

How do I know this as a fact?
Criminal logic. Take it from me, I know evil.
I was born with---

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIjddye2JSA

and a delinquent attitude.
I thank God for that. So to speak.

Taming these is what gave me what I needed to push my apotheosis and develop the wisdom to recognize you lack of good moral thinking.

Seems there is nothing you can teach me, except how not to think.

Regards
DL

[Violet]

The fuck is a criminal mind? 0.o

And I believe it quite good to profit from murder. If you aren't profiting from killing someone... then why did you do it?

Good and evil are very subjective values ^_^

[Greatest I am]

The fuck is a criminal mind? 0.o

And I believe it quite good to profit from murder. If you aren't profiting from killing someone... then why did you do it?

Good and evil are very subjective values ^_^

Sigh.

Regards
DL