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RE: Beating women in Islam
October 12, 2018 at 6:11 am
(October 12, 2018 at 4:25 am)Khemikal Wrote: Quote:What if your wife went ape shit and came at you with a baseball bat? and she gave it to you, breaking a bone or two? wouldn't you fight back?
Well, obviously, I'd throw her to the ground and then bludgeon her to death with the bat. Allah Akbar!
 The verse said "an eye for an eye":
Quote:Sura 5, The Quran:
Abul Ala Maududi(With tafsir)
https://quran.com/5/45?translations=
(5:45) And therein We had ordained for them: 'A life for a life, and an eye for an eye, and a nose for a nose, and an ear for an ear, and a tooth for a tooth, and for all wounds, like for like.4 But whosoever forgoes it by way of charity, it will be for him an expiation.5 Those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are indeed the wrong-doers.
It's your problem if you can't read laws probably and your problem too if you turn the sentence "like for like" into "beat the shit of your wife".
Quote:Aren't you such a swell guy, but you do have that whole "god told me I could beat you" in your back pocket, for when she starts acting up.
I'd really like to think that islam is the only thing that's wrong with you, such that it leads you to come here and post this sort of shit..but I have doubts. If you were an american christian, you'd probably be treating us to the same wife beating apologism.
I'm very sorry but you don't know me enough; I treasure honesty and I'll tell a woman I date about my beliefs first hand.
I think all Muslims should do that; too. And I despise the ones who don't to immense levels.
I don't worship women, but I respect biology very very much. Biology said its word; and I would like to treat women as human-beings; not pets.
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RE: Beating women in Islam
October 12, 2018 at 6:14 am
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(October 12, 2018 at 6:11 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: The verse said "an eye for an eye": Yeah, and the bitch rushed me with a bat. For clarity, does this count as skipping the first two "no"s? Is it like wifebeating monopoly, do I get to proceed directly to GO! I don't wanna get on the shitlist of a god who pours molten lead up peoples buttholes or whatnot..just because I jumped the gun a skosh. Obviously he's cool with the end-beatings but how firm is he on this rule of three stuff?
Quote:I'm very sorry but you don't know me enough; I treasure honesty and I'll tell a woman I date about my beliefs first hand.
I think all Muslims should do that; too. And I despise the ones who don't to immense levels.
Perhaps you poorly represent yourself, and should work on that?
Quote:I don't worship women, but I respect biology very very much. Biology said its word; and I would like to treat women as human-beings; not pets.
-and humans you beat, but not pets...or?
Don't get me wrong..I know I'm dogging you hard, here..but we have folks just like you in the us, they're a big thing now..always staring quixotically off into space wondering why they can't beat a bitch, anyway, too....huh?
My little brother, for example. So yes, I do understand that otherwise nice and friendly people (that I love, even) can believe and espouse abhorrent shit.... and he's not even a muslim.
Lemme just add this, if you happen to mention your beliefs to women when you meet them..and you omit the whole "I believe that allah said I could beat you" - I think that she might find that a relevant omission........and if you actually are upfront with people like this...I really have to know...hows that been workin out as a pickup line?
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RE: Beating women in Islam
October 12, 2018 at 6:18 am
(October 12, 2018 at 4:59 am)robvalue Wrote: If the book said to just beat the shit out of every woman you see for no reason, would Muslims do that? If not, then the book cannot be so magic and its authority is contingent upon already agreeing with its contents.
An "eye for an eye", rob. Not "beating the shit out of a woman".
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RE: Beating women in Islam
October 12, 2018 at 6:19 am
I said if it said that, would you do it?
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RE: Beating women in Islam
October 12, 2018 at 6:27 am
(October 12, 2018 at 6:05 am)Khemikal Wrote: (October 12, 2018 at 5:52 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Beating a child is wrong, but are women children?
Women are humans. I say let's begin to treat them like that. Children are humans too...I say we start treating them like humans, by beating the living shit out of them when they say no three times.
Atlass, you're never going to be able to whitewash this one, lol. You worship the god of wifebeating.
Reply to my post, please.
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RE: Beating women in Islam
October 12, 2018 at 6:29 am
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Aw, poor thing, did your wifebeating apologism thread go sideways?
Who'd have imagined. Now..remember, I'd have to be rebellious at least one more time before you get to beat me..if I was your wife....according to magic book.
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RE: Beating women in Islam
October 12, 2018 at 6:31 am
(October 12, 2018 at 6:29 am)Khemikal Wrote: Aw, poor thing, did your wifebeating apologism thread go sideways?
Who'd have imagined. Now..remember, I'd have to be rebellious at least one more time before you get to beat me..if I was your wife....according to magic book.
Reply to my post, please.
Enough dodging. You remind me of Mystic Knight when he stops taking his meds.
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RE: Beating women in Islam
October 12, 2018 at 6:32 am
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You just quoted me quoting you, and replying to the quoted comments. Can we proceed? I'd like to hear more about the kind of wifebeating allah is down with. Apparently bat related cases and street brawls are a go. What else?
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RE: Beating women in Islam
October 12, 2018 at 6:38 am
(October 12, 2018 at 6:32 am)Khemikal Wrote: You just quoted me quoting you, and replying to the quoted comments. Can we proceed? I'd like to hear more about the kind of wifebeating allah is down with. Apparently bat related cases and street brawls are a go. What else?
Reply to my post, please.
Read the OP and you will know what is what. You'll form a better post that way.
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RE: Beating women in Islam
October 12, 2018 at 6:54 am
(October 12, 2018 at 6:19 am)robvalue Wrote: I said if it said that, would you do it?
I’ll answer for you:
No, you wouldn’t do it, even if the book said so. So why use it as an authority when your use of it is dependent on morality you already hold?
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