Independent Voters on the trump presidency

[onlinebiker]

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Yes - it s still cherry picked ---

And - ask this question ---

Would they now switch their vote to Hillary??


Probably not.

Actually, according to at least one or two of them, they plan on voting straight democratic ticket in November. So even if this was a presidential election year and Hillary was the democratic nominee, she would get their vote.

Try not to make so many insinuations.

Bad idea.

The only way the orange one could win again is to pit him against Hillary.

Most any other ( D ) would win by a solid majority.

[Joods]

Doesn't matter. I answered the question that you specifically asked. And you were wrong. Hence, my point.

[onlinebiker]

Doesn't matter. I answered the question that you specifically asked. And you were wrong. Hence, my point.

I disagree.

Selecting who answered isn't the only way to pick cherries.

Selecting which questions you ask - or neglect to ask works just as well.

[Joods]

Doesn't matter. I answered the question that you specifically asked. And you were wrong. Hence, my point.

I disagree.

Selecting who answered isn't the only way to pick cherries.

Selecting which questions you ask - or neglect to ask works just as well.

Are you dense? This is what you asked: 

Would they now switch their vote to Hillary??

And this is what I answered with: 

Actually, according to at least one or two of them, they plan on voting straight democratic ticket in November. So even if this was a presidential election year and Hillary was the democratic nominee, she would get their vote. 

I fail to see how that's not answering your question. I watched the interview. I paid attention. Unless you're asking me to go back in time armed with the knowledge I have now, and for them to do the same, would they vote for her? You need to specify that otherwise you're asking me to make a prediction about a past tense event and I can't do that. Furthermore, I think that common sense should give you the answer to that.

[onlinebiker]

I disagree.

Selecting who answered isn't the only way to pick cherries.

Selecting which questions you ask - or neglect to ask works just as well.

Are you dense? This is what you asked: 

Would they now switch their vote to Hillary??

And this is what I answered with: 

Actually, according to at least one or two of them, they plan on voting straight democratic ticket in November. So even if this was a presidential election year and Hillary was the democratic nominee, she would get their vote. 

I fail to see how that's not answering your question. I watched the interview. I paid attention. Unless you're asking me to go back in time armed with the knowledge I have now, and for them to do the same, would they vote for her? You need to specify that otherwise you're asking me to make a prediction about a past tense event and I can't do that. Furthermore, I think that common sense should give you the answer to that.

You need insults?

That' s always a poor backstop for rational debate.

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Again - the questions you ask can change the outcome of any polling --

If a person states " I'm voting straight ticket" - in response to query, the response could be changed if you specify who is running.

But, if you like the answer - you quit questioning.

Cherry picked.

[The Valkyrie]

My sympathy levels for these idiots is zero.

Before the election it was obvious what type of egotistical moron the orange orangutan was and they still voted for him.

Stupid fucking people.

[Joods]

Are you dense? This is what you asked: 



And this is what I answered with: 


I fail to see how that's not answering your question. I watched the interview. I paid attention. Unless you're asking me to go back in time armed with the knowledge I have now, and for them to do the same, would they vote for her? You need to specify that otherwise you're asking me to make a prediction about a past tense event and I can't do that. Furthermore, I think that common sense should give you the answer to that.

You need insults?

That' s always a poor backstop for rational debate.

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Again - the questions you ask can change the outcome of any polling --

If a person states " I'm voting straight ticket" - in response to query, the response could be changed if you specify who is running.

But, if you like the answer - you quit questioning.

Cherry picked.

Wrong. I was directly addressing your question. The fact that you aren't seeing that, is amusing. Do you often engage in the following:

[onlinebiker]

My sympathy levels for these idiots is zero.

Before the election it was obvious what type of egotistical moron the orange orangutan was and they still voted for him.

Stupid fucking people.

I agree - those that voted for him.


The majority of independents I know ( and several Pubs) simply sat out the election in disgust.

[Joods]

The majority of independents I know ( and several Pubs) simply sat out the election in disgust.

I hope they realized what a mistake that was. Even if they didn't want to vote Hillary, they could have at least wrote in a candidate and then voted in their local elections. 

People need to understand that voting should be a civic duty. Even when both candidates are unfavorable. You still have the right to do a write in candidate.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

People need to understand that voting should be a civic duty.

Is what I've read about the roadblocks to voting in the US true?  I've seen news stories about people turned away at the polls for no good reason, and that some election officials intentionally make it difficult to vote.

FWIW, we had a general election here about this time last year, and the Election Commission were appalled that voter turn-out was only 79.8% (much better than 2014, but they pretty much scolded non-voters for not taking part).

Boru