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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 3:04 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 11:52 am)wyzas Wrote: OP: you're she's not pro-life, you're she's pro-birth. I doubt you she'll do anything, at most little, to support the "life" once it's out of the other persons body.
Corrected, thanks Steel. Apologies Jade.
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 6:14 pm
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(November 11, 2018 at 1:36 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 12:42 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Maybe permanent sterilization of liberals would solve this problem
What problem?
The fact that Dmitry's a knob head.
(November 11, 2018 at 2:56 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 2:00 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I think SC is questioning our edumacashun, everyone!
What?! But we have a very excellent edumacashun from the best of schools employing some of the very finest words. Still I was very tempted to rant at the OP too but I couldn't be sure where she stood.
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 6:49 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 1:49 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Moderator Notice Fixed the OP to reflect that the pro-life argument was another person's argument, since it seems that reading comprehension was put on a back shelf and replaced with immediate outrage.
Hey now. I said something about it too. I'm glad you fixed it though.
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 6:55 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 12:42 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Maybe permanent sterilization of liberals would solve this problem
Or death camps for cons and other criminal elements.
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 7:07 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 12:42 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Maybe permanent sterilization of liberals would solve this problem
What problem? Too many people who think the world is round?
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 9:07 pm
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(November 11, 2018 at 9:45 am)Wololo Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 12:36 am)Jade-Green Stone Wrote: I’m pro-life. I believe at life at conception.
I'm sorry but you are not pro-life. If you were you'd prioritise the needs of a living breathing woman over the continued existence of a clump of cells which has only the potential for future life.
What you are is anti-abortion.
And your argument is insulting to both me, you and people who are actually slaves or had ancestors who were slaves. Me because you think I'm thick enough to be fooled by fractal wrongness, you on the principle of "better to stay silent and have the world think you a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" and the slaves because it trivialises the hardship and torture they went through and their descendants are going through right now because of the stigma attached to slavery.
In short fuck off with your know nothing and insulting Ionanist bullshit.
PS one final thing your slavery non-argument falls apart when you realise the simple fact that your position is an actual argument in favour of slavery, the enforced carrying of a foetus by a woman no matter the circumstances of conception or the consequences of carrying the foetus. You are forcing another person to do work that could be mentally or physically lethal against their will just to satisfy your personal prejudices and wrongheadedness. That, my dear little shit is slavery, not your analogy.
Uh, thanks.
PS: You do know I am pro choice, I was just telling you what the other said, sorry, hard for me to use the quote thing as my computer is a bitch.
But yeah, her whole argument fell apart when she compared Pro-Choice to Slaver, I just wanted to face palm.
(November 11, 2018 at 1:49 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Moderator Notice Fixed the OP to reflect that the pro-life argument was another person's argument, since it seems that reading comprehension was put on a back shelf and replaced with immediate outrage.
Will do, sorry my computer last night wasn't being kind to me.
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 9:13 pm
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(November 11, 2018 at 7:17 am)bennyboy Wrote: Just a heads up. "Feel free to change my mind" is a Steven Crowder line. He's a young right-wing talk guy who likes to sit in a public place, usually a left-leaning place like a college campus, and beat up dumb college kids in debate. It's quite entertaining, actually. In using this term, you can know that 1) this person is right-wing; 2) she's quite likely to echo Crowder's own strategies.
In other words-- if you want to stomp her, find what people have said about Crowder's view on abortion, and regurgitate it in the thread, just like she's doing.
Also. . . please learn how quote tags work, especially if you want to author an OP. This is important. Are you kidding Crowdar gets his ass kicked in terms of actual arguments every debate and it's not a real debate if the parameters are such that he can't lose because the condition for victory is convincing a person who has every finical and ideological reason to weasel out of admitting hes's wrong . He's dishonest to boot .
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 9:14 pm
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2018 at 9:15 pm by Jade-Green Stone.)
for clarification guys, I am pro choice.
And yes, I get life begins at conception, to me however, the idea that a unborn baby has 'rights' is very odd or can be compared to a slave just makes me wanna bang my head on the wall.
Sorry for not using quotes. As I said, my computer tends to dislike me alot at late hours of the night, and I was in rush.
The person making the Pro-Life argument was a person who wanted to debate me, or proclaimed she did, however I know a trap when i see one.
(November 11, 2018 at 3:04 pm)wyzas Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 11:52 am)wyzas Wrote: OP: you're she's not pro-life, you're she's pro-birth. I doubt you she'll do anything, at most little, to support the "life" once it's out of the other persons body.
Corrected, thanks Steel. Apologies Jade.
It's all good, sorry for the confusion also.
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 9:16 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 9:14 pm)Jade-Green Stone Wrote: for clarification guys, I am pro choice.
And yes, I get life begins at conception, to me however, the idea that a unborn baby has 'rights' is very odd or can be compared to a slave just makes me wanna bang my head on the wall.
Sorry for not using quotes. As I said, my computer tends to dislike me alot at late hours of the night, and I was in rush.
The person making the Pro-Life argument was a person who wanted to debate me, or proclaimed she did, however I know a trap when i see one.
(November 11, 2018 at 3:04 pm)wyzas Wrote: Corrected, thanks Steel. Apologies Jade.
It's all good, sorry for the confusion also. Okay sorry for the misunderstanding
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 9:16 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 11:05 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 12:36 am)Jade-Green Stone Wrote: Got myself into a stupid analogy debate, which I am not going any farther with after my first comment telling this idiot it was a 'stupid analogy'.
I’m pro-life. I believe at life at conception. The argument that pro life is anti woman is just not true. Think about it this way. You’re driving down a dark road. You think you see someone standing in the street but you aren’t sure. Do you stop? Of course you do because there is a chance that could be a life. Same thing with a fetus.
ETA: Didn't realize this was not your argument when I posted. To quote Emily Litella, "Nevermind."
You stop because the object standing in the road might be a fully developed person who possesses the right to life and you have an obligation to preserve such life. If the object in the road is a turtle or a cat, you're less inclined to take action and probably wouldn't regret hitting them in the same way that you would regret hitting and killing a grown woman. Yet a turtle and a cat are both alive. You don't even concern yourself with the bugs on your windshield. You kill them with impunity. Yet they are alive as well. Like many pro-life arguments, your argument depends upon equivocation and ignoring relevant differences that actually exist. Typically pro-choice people do not deny that a fetus is alive, so your argument and analogy, besides being fallacious and misleading, is a straw man.
Well either way very nice way of putting it.
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