Trumps base is starting to erode.

[Figbash]

The people I know who support him seem to be doubling down lately. There is a good reason they call it Cult 45.

[Jane2d]

Heard this before. Over and over

[Jehanne]

1. A lots changed in the methodology since 2016 and it wasn't that the polls were totally off it's certain information was ignored or under reported . 

2. They have not turned on him yet

The methodology for what? Conducting surveys? For which organizations and how has the methodology changed? Where are you getting this info?

Hillary won the popular vote by 2.9 million, and so, the polls were both right and wrong at the same time.  Trump crested exactly when and where he needed to; the polls are, of course, always "shooting" at a moving target.

[EgoDeath]

The methodology for what? Conducting surveys? For which organizations and how has the methodology changed? Where are you getting this info?

Hillary won the popular vote by 2.9 million, and so, the polls were both right and wrong at the same time.  Trump crested exactly when and where he needed to; the polls are, of course, always "shooting" at a moving target.

Bolded by me.

How so? How were they right and wrong at the same time?

[Amarok]

1. A lots changed in the methodology since 2016 and it wasn't that the polls were totally off it's certain information was ignored or under reported . 

2. They have not turned on him yet

The methodology for what? Conducting surveys? For which organizations and how has the methodology changed? Where are you getting this info?

Information gathering and predictions and interpreting data Greater accuracy at predictions and reporting etc . I received it from varied interviews of pollsters when discussing what went wrong in 2016 .

[Jade-Green Stone]

Somewhat unrelated: I found it mostly funny when my step dad seemed to think by Trump getting China to buy rice from us... Like somehow that was relevant enough to mean Trump pulled one over on China. Gosh the stupidity of people just astounds me at times, not just them bu the stupidity of the guy with access to most of the country!

[Pat Mustard]

The polls also said he wouldn't get elected in 2016, so no offense but I tend to wonder if these polls are complete horse shit.

All I can say is, for some reason, Trumps fans don't seem to turn on him. It's one of the most illogical fanbases I've ever personally seen for a president and it scares me. Here's to hoping we get a Dem in office in 2020.

Trump didn't get elected, he got anointed.

[Jehanne]

Hillary won the popular vote by 2.9 million, and so, the polls were both right and wrong at the same time.  Trump crested exactly when and where he needed to; the polls are, of course, always "shooting" at a moving target.

Bolded by me.

How so? How were they right and wrong at the same time?

Hillary won the popular vote but lost the election.  Most of the polls were national polls.

[Yonadav]

One of the bigger problems here is that a lot of people who don't know what they are talking about keep saying that a lot of other people who don't know what they are talking about are stupid. Talking about how stupid other people are is just so much fun, but it won't make you smarter.

In December, China resumed purchasing US soybeans. Their embargo on US soybeans wasn't working out. They were paying much smaller suppliers premium prices, while the normal buyers from those smaller suppliers paid the US market price.

Most of the low US market price was not due to the tariffs. Most of the low US market price is due to bumper crops in the US and Brazil. The problem was exacerbated by many US farmers storing their beans, hoping for a higher price later. They did this because of news about Argentina's crop failure. They thought that maybe Brazil wasn't going to have a bumper crop. Brazil is having a bumper crop, so the bet did not pay off.

Blaming Trump's tariffs for farmer's problems is more politically motivated than reality motivated. There are a lot of people who have political motivation to place the blame on Trump. A very ignorant segment of the left and big business are very strange bedfellows on this issue. I say 'a very ignorant segment of the left' because most of the left is not opposed to a trade confrontation with China. On the left, we have been pushing for a trade confrontation with China for several years. If you are on the left, then you support a trade confrontation with China. If you are opposed to it just to oppose Trump, then you are just a silly person who will betray your own values just spite someone that you don't like.

Trump is not the person that I would have chosen to lead any confrontation with anyone, ever. But I do acknowledge that it might not have been possible to start a confrontation with China without someone like Trump. Why? Because Republicans would have torn someone like Obama to shreds if he would have initiated a trade confrontation with China. The Republicans are almost unanimously opposed to trade war with China. Most support for a trade war with China comes from the Democratic side. This is why Democrats picked the wall and immigration as their battle, rather than the trade war with China. On the trade war with China, they are silent. They don't want to sound like they are supporting Trump in anything. But they aren't going to fight against trade war with China very hard, because too many Democrats support it. Almost no Republicans support it. But they have abdicated all party power to Trump in the face of a relentless Democratic assault.

So Democrats are largely silent about the trade war with China. The Republicans are largely silent about the trade war with China. But the media keeps trying to make a story out of the trade war with China. Hmm. I wonder why that might be? A lot of very powerful business men do not like the trade war with China. And they have been buying up all of the newspapers for the past several years. And powerful businesses have really perfected the art of messaging over the past several decades. And news networks and newspapers are fantastic tools for messaging. So opposition to a trade war with China comes primarily from big business, the media, and libtards. The libtards are being duped by the first two. They think that they are on the left, but they don't know what the left is. They are stooges who are extremely susceptible to messaging.

[downbeatplumb]

The methodology for what? Conducting surveys? For which organizations and how has the methodology changed? Where are you getting this info?

Hillary won the popular vote by 2.9 million, and so, the polls were both right and wrong at the same time.  Trump crested exactly when and where he needed to; the polls are, of course, always "shooting" at a moving target.

We had a programme here the other week that hinted that a IT firm used by the republicans practiced stealing elections on the Brexit vote. They wanted a large test election to test their strategy in preparation for the US elections and didn't charge the leave campaign for their services.

"Brexit the uncivil war" it was called.