are any of you honest enough to simply answer the question asked?

[Drich]

I just started a thread and asked a point blank question then backed it with a news story..

one of you answered the question asked. the rest re made the question into something they feel comfortable asking.

what is with you guys that makes you so afraid to vary from the main stream answer, or in this case answer a question the main stream has not addressed yet? do you fear your peers say something bad about you if you defend a healthy 9mo old being born?

Again my question centers around a fully developed baby who can on it's own live outside the womb without any machines or mechanical assistance. who is to be literally ripped apart inutero and pulled out one piece at a time. and I get fetus remarks from a dead comic or I get a read back of 1/2 the bill where it is about the woman's health and not mental or emotional well being as the bill stated. Again not looking to discuss the bill here but the process in which you guys never answer the question I ask, but rather change the parameters of my question to some old hat well worn 1970's abortion argument bullshit you don't even have to type out any more because your key board is so use to those key strokes all you have to do is tap the computer a few times and out comes the same old speech that has nothing to do with the topic presented.

Could you imagine if the christians side of the web site only spoke to you by rewording your questions? we'd be bann for not following topic or some sort of trolling as we would be provoking a different argument and intentionally derailing the thread. which is what you all are doing now to me!

What’s the fucking question?

glob...

In the first abortion thread is a healthy child full term during child birth a viable target for abortion/can you abort a healthy baby because it causes the mother mental stress or disturbs her mental well being? Then I gave an example of how this could possible play out by saying she is a middle class wife and mother of 4 white babies, and 1/2 way through they find out this 5th baby is black. this causes great mental distress as she know this is the end of her comfy life, a source great humiliation, and even poverty as she has no marketable skills.. can that be a viable reason for abortion?

So rather than answer the question, you all simply pick apart my belief system or the senerio so you don't have to answer it.

Then I asked here in this thread why do you guys do this and why are you allow/why none of you have been repermanded for trolling 

I got one person in the first thread that said anything after the 2nd trimester was should not be allowed. 1 of you stood up and answered the question.

Not one has answered this thread. outside of personal attacks.

[LadyForCamus]

What’s the fucking question?

glob...

In the first abortion thread is a healthy child full term during child birth a viable target for abortion/can you abort a healthy baby because it causes the mother mental stress or disturbs her mental well being? Then I gave an example of how this could possible play out by saying she is a middle class wife and mother of 4 white babies, and 1/2 way through they find out this 5th baby is black. this causes great mental distress as she know this is the end of her comfy life, a source great humiliation, and even poverty as she has no marketable skills.. can that be a viable reason for abortion?

So rather than answer the question, you all simply pick apart my belief system or the senerio so you don't have to answer it.

Then I asked here in this thread why do you guys do this and why are you allow/why none of you have been repermanded for trolling 

I got one person in the first thread that said anything after the 2nd trimester was should not be allowed. 1 of you stood up and answered the question.

Not one has answered this thread. outside of personal attacks.

My personal opinion: No. absolutely not. I would consider that infanticide.  There. Are you happy?

[The Grand Nudger]

Round two of trying to lie your way through being caught in a lie........

You have been informed, repeatedly, that the bill in question allows for no such thing.  

Secondly, as a more general contention divorced from your transparent lies about the article and the bill....I've given you this very specific answer.....on the first page, post no. 8

I'm entirely okay with "she didn't want the baby" at any point prior to the end of her necessity in producing it. 

https://atheistforums.org/thread-58127.html

Others have given you their own answers. Stop...fucking...lying Drich.  How hard can that be?

[Brian37]

You not liking our answers is your baggage not ours.

It is very simple. If you are not the female, or the doctor, YOU HAVE NO SAY!

Can't dumb it down any further for you.

show me a direct answer... criticizing me or my belief system is not an answer for how far into pregnancy do you personally feel one can go and kill the baby? are you willing to allow a doctor and mother kill a child and call it abortion if the child is healthy viable and in the process of being born/full term? One of you answer that question directly. the rest is hate mail for making you all think before the mainstream gives you an answer to give people like me!

"None of your business".

Can't get any more direct than that.

Now again. Unless you are willing to charge the female EQUALLY with murder, then really all you are doing is being a judgmental douche. NOBODY sets out to have an abortion as if they were going to a keg party, or a Hawaiian Luau.

Your problem is you are basing your morality on an old book of mythology, that has no barring on our modern understanding of human biology, psychology or sociology. Not to mention unless you are the one pregnant, YOU HAVE NO SAY.

[LadyForCamus]

Lol, “mamabird”.

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

glob...

In the first abortion thread is a healthy child full term during child birth a viable target for abortion/can you abort a healthy baby because it causes the mother mental stress or disturbs her mental well being? Then I gave an example of how this could possible play out by saying she is a middle class wife and mother of 4 white babies, and 1/2 way through they find out this 5th baby is black. this causes great mental distress as she know this is the end of her comfy life, a source great humiliation, and even poverty as she has no marketable skills.. can that be a viable reason for abortion?

So rather than answer the question, you all simply pick apart my belief system or the senerio so you don't have to answer it.

Then I asked here in this thread why do you guys do this and why are you allow/why none of you have been repermanded for trolling 

I got one person in the first thread that said anything after the 2nd trimester was should not be allowed. 1 of you stood up and answered the question.

Not one has answered this thread. outside of personal attacks.

Ah! Thanks for the reiteration and rephrasing of your questions. Neater and more legible. Thank'e muchly.

Yup, you're not just wrong Drich. You're questions are silly as well.

Cheers!

[Drich]

........how are these questions not legit?

Oh..... different question.

*Nods as they ponder new question...*

Yep, you're still wrong Drich.

just proves my point sport

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glob...

In the first abortion thread is a healthy child full term during child birth a viable target for abortion/can you abort a healthy baby because it causes the mother mental stress or disturbs her mental well being? Then I gave an example of how this could possible play out by saying she is a middle class wife and mother of 4 white babies, and 1/2 way through they find out this 5th baby is black. this causes great mental distress as she know this is the end of her comfy life, a source great humiliation, and even poverty as she has no marketable skills.. can that be a viable reason for abortion?

So rather than answer the question, you all simply pick apart my belief system or the senerio so you don't have to answer it.

Then I asked here in this thread why do you guys do this and why are you allow/why none of you have been repermanded for trolling 

I got one person in the first thread that said anything after the 2nd trimester was should not be allowed. 1 of you stood up and answered the question.

Not one has answered this thread. outside of personal attacks.

My personal opinion: No. absolutely not. I would consider that infanticide.  There. Are you happy?

wow didn't think any more of you had it in you to stand against what pro choicers were saying. good for you! much respect!!

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

Oh..... different question.

*Nods as they ponder new question...*

Yep, you're still wrong Drich.

just proves my point sport

Awesome!

So glad you/we agree!

[Drich]

show me a direct answer... criticizing me or my belief system is not an answer for how far into pregnancy do you personally feel one can go and kill the baby? are you willing to allow a doctor and mother kill a child and call it abortion if the child is healthy viable and in the process of being born/full term? One of you answer that question directly. the rest is hate mail for making you all think before the mainstream gives you an answer to give people like me!

"None of your business".

Can't get any more direct than that.

Now again. Unless you are willing to charge the female EQUALLY with murder, then really all you are doing is being a judgmental douche. NOBODY sets out to have an abortion as if they were going to a keg party, or a Hawaiian Luau.

Your problem is you are basing your morality on an old book of mythology, that has no barring on our modern understanding of human biology, psychology or sociology. Not to mention unless you are the one pregnant, YOU HAVE NO SAY.

do I need to post the actual bill again? physical health is not the only way for mid birth abortion certification under this bill. a woman's mental health and stability are what's new. we've always had provision concerning health, how ever what this bill introduces is the mental (happiness) of the mother.

 and again I gave the example of having born a baby that could potentially destroy her marriage, way of life/means of income, her family and the relationship she has with her kids could all be considered to be highly mentally taxing which could result in an abortion according to this bill with the 'right doctor.' as the bill puts the ultimate decision with them.

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At work.

glob...

In the first abortion thread is a healthy child full term during child birth a viable target for abortion/can you abort a healthy baby because it causes the mother mental stress or disturbs her mental well being? Then I gave an example of how this could possible play out by saying she is a middle class wife and mother of 4 white babies, and 1/2 way through they find out this 5th baby is black. this causes great mental distress as she know this is the end of her comfy life, a source great humiliation, and even poverty as she has no marketable skills.. can that be a viable reason for abortion?

So rather than answer the question, you all simply pick apart my belief system or the senerio so you don't have to answer it.

Then I asked here in this thread why do you guys do this and why are you allow/why none of you have been repermanded for trolling 

I got one person in the first thread that said anything after the 2nd trimester was should not be allowed. 1 of you stood up and answered the question.

Not one has answered this thread. outside of personal attacks.

Ah! Thanks for the reiteration and rephrasing of your questions.  Neater and more legible.  Thank'e muchly.

Yup, you're not just wrong Drich. You're questions are silly as well.

Cheers!

thank you so very much for making my points valid in such a way, your peers have stopped denying my claims and now wither, fall silent or are indeed compelled to answer the questions I have asked.. I do nt believe I could have done this without your specific help as having you as an antagonist made it impossible for your brethern to burry their heads in the sand any more. I don't believe you shamed them into action but at the same time I do believe they saw themselves and how foolish they would look continuing to wave the flag you still champion. good work and thank you for allowing my to use you as a   rag.

one shot! 

(one shot is the cheers of korea)

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At work.

just proves my point sport

Awesome!

So glad you/we agree!

keep it going 'spunky'

[Brian37]

Not going to play this game with you Drich.

You don't have to like abortions, but there is nothing moral at all about denying another human body autonomy.