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[BrianSoddingBoru4]

As far as I can see, however, on an individual level, specifically in the case of Farrakhan, the point is moot, especially when he’s focusing his hate on a minority that’s spent most of recorded history fearing for their lives.

So in your mind that places them above criticism?

Israeli soldiers shoot blindfolded, handcuffed Palestinian as he tried to flee

If Farrakhan were to publicly denounce the soldiers and the government policy that makes shooting a blindfolded, handcuffed Palestinian okey dokey, he would get full support from me.

But that's not what he's doing. He's denigrating an entire group of people, the overwhelming majority of whom never did anything to him.  Why does he do that?  Because he's an anti-Semite. 

Boru

[Amarok]

So in your mind that places them above criticism?

Israeli soldiers shoot blindfolded, handcuffed Palestinian as he tried to flee

Yup Israel is a corrupt nation with lengthy track record of human rights violations and support for some of the evilest regimes in modern history (and no don't give me that shit about "defending themselves" that's not an excuse . But none of that makes the Jews black or Farrakhan less of a Anti Semite cockhead .

[Rev. Rye]

(and no don't give me that shit about "defending themselves" that's not an excuse.

It's an explanation, certainly (given that it's surrounded on almost all sides by neighbors of varying hostility), but not an excuse. And even as a explanation, it only goes so far, especially when one considers that they're in the habit of escalating that shit constantly (I use the term "escalation" because, looking at Israel's military history, it has actually been involved in an aggressive war exactly once.)

I am a bit more fair about the question of Israel than a lot of us, but I do give demerits when demerits are due. And whenever the IDF gets involved in a war, there's a lot of demerits to give out, because it's never ceased to amaze me how two sides with some degree of moral high ground in a debate can both squander it so spectacularly.

[Athene]

I like how people who's ancestors immigrated here to benefit off of the economy built off the backs of slave labor, and then turn around and act as if they have some moral high ground.

I'm going to provide a list, and you tell me which one that black people are guilty of, if you can't, then there is no comparative racism.

1. Chattel slavery for hundreds of years

2. Rape and murder with impunity

3. Segregation


4. Jim Crow

5. Redlining

6. Gerrymandering

I agree that likening examples of individual racism to structural and institutional racism is a bullshit comparison. The entrenched racism that most black Americans additionally encounter on a regular basis makes navigating life uniquely challenging and can be extraordinarily difficult to circumvent.  It's impact is far-reaching and it is essentially unavoidable.

That being said, broadbrushing entire ethnic/racial groups as evil, demonic, and/or cockroaches, termites, rats, monkeys or animals of any sort is a deliberate and calculated to attempt to make it easier for folks to dehumanize them. Farrakhan is deeply problematic in that regard.
 
Yes, he speaks some truth. Any skilled demagogue does. 

But fact that these dogshit white supremacists/nationalists actually respect that motherfucker should tell you something. His race may not be that of those who stand to do the worst damage as members of the dominant power structure, but he definitely speaks their language: the politics of hate.

Lol....Ever peeked in on online chats between white and black nationalists? 
Sexual tension you could cut with a knife. Those guys practically want to blow each other.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I mean the same government that is responsible for slavery in America

LOL

[LastPoet]

I don't think we deserve the honor. He came already broken in the head.

Your name is no longer orange......

Oh yeah, well, it's not that important. You know me, I have an impact.

[Amarok]

I mean the same government that is responsible for slavery in America

LOL

Are you arguing that after the formation of the united states the government didn't continue the institution of slavery ? And yes i'm aware slavery existed in the 13 colonies and even the natives . My point was the buck passes to them  for allowing it to continue

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Fuck buck passing. It's blaming the children for the deeds of their ancestors. Cheap shots, nothing more.

[Rev. Rye]

Fuck buck passing. It's blaming the children for the deeds of their ancestors. Cheap shots, nothing more.

To be fair, even after the 13th Amendment, they did keep up the conditions that kept black people in bondage in ways that were only slightly better than the literal chains worn during slavery days, especially in the century that passed between the passage of the 13th Amendment and the Civil Rights Act of 1965 (as well as in the 54 years since, but I think a lot of that is less due to conscious racism than before and more to unconscious racism that's ends up fed by and feeding the conditions many black people live in to this day.) I'm not sure if Tizh's conclusion is right, but it's not hard for me to figure out how he got there.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

And we still have the sins of the greatfuckinggrandfathers visited upon the children.