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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 4:58 pm
(July 15, 2019 at 4:55 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: What do you think ice is doing with the people they snatch in those raids? Loading them into catapults and tossing them over the rio grande?
You get that these are deportation raids, right? Read the law arewethereyet posted. It's pretty clear.
The people in the camps (or the ones sent to Mexico) are those whose cases haven't been decided yet. The people targeted in the raids are people who have been found NOT to qualify for asylum and have been ordered deported.
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 4:59 pm
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(July 15, 2019 at 4:55 pm)Divinity Wrote: (July 15, 2019 at 4:47 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If you're addressing me, yes, I grasp that they do not have arrest warrants. They have deportation orders, which is a different kettle of fish entirely.
As far as I'm concerned, these people should be left alone. They've been through enough. My only issue is posters here mischaracterizing what OLB said.
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No I was addressing arewethereyet
http://immigrantconnect.medill.northwest...ed-asylum/
[CIS] defines the procedure for alternative decisions in asylum cases. Some applicants are given the answer of a recommended approval. In this case, asylum cannot be immediately granted based on an incomplete portion of the application process; security checks must ensure that the applicant does not pose a threat to the United States and health checks must prove the applicant does not have any contagious diseases such as tuberculosis, HIV, or AIDS
If the court or asylum officer finds that an applicant does not fulfill the before-mentioned asylum requirements, the application may be referred to an immigration court. In this situation, the applicant could be eligible for a stay in the United States for other reasons.
If found to not qualify for asylum or general immigration status, an applicant receives a notice of intent to deny. This decision is a last-chance ruling. The applicant then has 16 days to write the court with reasons why he or she feels deserving of asylum and presents new evidence that was not taken into account their last application process. These efforts may qualify the applicant for asylum.
If there is no new evidence, the applicant is given a final denial. This ruling, if the applicant is in the United States illegally, is followed by removal of the applicant from the United States.
Show me a link that outlines the steps for - is followed by removal of the applicant from the United States.
(July 15, 2019 at 4:58 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: OLB is mischaracterizing the issue and the outrage. Injecting a little truth into this convo seems fair. I don’t believe thst it’s unintentional, but it wouldn’t really matter to me if it were.
And you are mind reading again. And that's your right. It doesn't mean you are right.
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 5:19 pm
(July 15, 2019 at 4:55 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: What do you think ice is doing with the people they snatch in those raids? Loading them into catapults and tossing them over the rio grande?
Do you believe, for that matter, that they’re limiting themselves to the bad hombres ( even under their novel definition of what that means)?
You simply won't focus on what I said.
These are people who have been given hearings and been denied. Deportation warrants are issued.
And people are pissing and moaning about them being deported.
So why are we playing this stupid game?
Open the borders - or enforce the laws.
Pick one.
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 5:22 pm
Or we don't settle for your false dichotomy lets do that instead
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 5:24 pm
(July 15, 2019 at 5:22 pm)Amarok Wrote: Or we don't settle for your false dichotomy lets do that instead
Go stock your head up a dead moose's asshole.
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 5:24 pm
Quote:And you are mind reading again. And that's your right. It doesn't mean you are right.
No such power is needed
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 5:24 pm
(July 15, 2019 at 5:22 pm)Amarok Wrote: Or we don't settle for your false dichotomy lets do that instead
Explain how it's false.
Either follow through with the results of the asylum hearings or don't bother going through the motions. How hard is that?
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 5:28 pm
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2019 at 5:32 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 15, 2019 at 5:19 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: You simply won't focus on what I said.
I did, in point of actual fact in this reality. Borders aren’t made pointless on account of not using them as an excuse to be shitty to brown people for no reason. That.....that....would be a pointless reason for the existence of a border. We don’t need borders or even border laws to piss on a Mexican.
Quote:And people are pissing and moaning about them being deported.
No they’re not, and you -know- that.
Quote:So why are we playing this stupid game?
Open the borders - or enforce the laws.
Pick one.
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 5:28 pm
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(July 15, 2019 at 5:24 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (July 15, 2019 at 5:22 pm)Amarok Wrote: Or we don't settle for your false dichotomy lets do that instead
Go stock your head up a dead moose's asshole.
Go shove your head up your own . Oh wait it's already there.
(July 15, 2019 at 5:24 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (July 15, 2019 at 5:22 pm)Amarok Wrote: Or we don't settle for your false dichotomy lets do that instead
Explain how it's false.
Either follow through with the results of the asylum hearings or don't bother going through the motions. How hard is that? I mean between open borders or enforcing the current laws .
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 5:29 pm
(July 15, 2019 at 5:24 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (July 15, 2019 at 5:22 pm)Amarok Wrote: Or we don't settle for your false dichotomy lets do that instead
Explain how it's false.
Either follow through with the results of the asylum hearings or don't bother going through the motions. How hard is that?
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If that fails - pout like a little bitch.
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