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[Serious] Why are you an Atheist?
#91
RE: Why are you an Atheist?
(December 12, 2019 at 4:53 pm)maxolla Wrote: New to this site and actually atheism.  I’m here to know more about atheism and how people convert to it.

I became an atheist when first exposed to the idea of god when I was about 5 and thought "that sounds dumb". Before that I just didnt know so didnt believe.

(December 12, 2019 at 4:53 pm)maxolla Wrote:  My questions are below.  If you have time please take a moment to help me understand more of the atheist view.  These questions are intended for those who espouse the atheist view but if you are from another belief system feel free to answer.

What do you consider as prime reality?

You get deliveries faster and have some TV channels in the price.

(December 12, 2019 at 4:53 pm)maxolla Wrote: What is the purpose of history or does it serve  a purpose?

History is just the stuff that happened and people wrote down. Can be usefull to learn or control the populace by either telling the truth or lies. The US tends towards the latter.

(December 12, 2019 at 4:53 pm)maxolla Wrote: How did human existence begin?

Its a sliding scale but somewhere where the ancestor species evolved into us.

(December 12, 2019 at 4:53 pm)maxolla Wrote: What is morality?

Not being a dick.

(December 12, 2019 at 4:53 pm)maxolla Wrote: Where do you decide what is right and wrong?

I use the don't be a dick rule.

(December 12, 2019 at 4:53 pm)maxolla Wrote: What do you believe in with absolute certainty?

That if I put a knife through my tummy it will hurt.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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#92
RE: Why are you an Atheist?
(December 16, 2019 at 1:54 pm)maxolla Wrote:
(December 16, 2019 at 4:41 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Evolution occurs frequently, that's why you need a different flu shot every year.

I believe you are referring to mutation not evolution.

(December 16, 2019 at 10:58 am)Alex K Wrote: There are many, the most famous is Lenski's E. coli experiment.

It seems like a better term for these observed changes would be mutation not evolution.

No, mutations are one of the drivers of the evolution observed here, evolution by natural selection is when these mutations spread in the population bc they are advantageous, and lead to new properties of the organisms.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#93
RE: Why are you an Atheist?
(December 16, 2019 at 9:00 am)Klorophyll Wrote:
(December 16, 2019 at 8:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That's kind of an odd assessment. I don't support the death penalty for anyone for anything.

Boru

I meant that nonreligious people tend to judge entire religions by very superficial criteria.

You do understand that atheists disbelief in the existence of ALL gods, even deist or pantheist gods, not just those gods associated with specific religions, right?

The only criteria I have to use, is has a god been demonstrated to exist. Until that occurs, I don't care what individual religions claim.

It doesn't require the assessment of specific religions to understand that NO god has ever been demonstrated to exist. In fact, religious leaders, holy texts, believers claims, can all be dismissed, until a god is demonstrated to exist. Only after a god is demonstrated to exist, can we then begin to try to discern if it a god of a specific religion, and described in any religious book.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#94
RE: Why are you an Atheist?
(December 16, 2019 at 4:13 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(December 16, 2019 at 9:00 am)Klorophyll Wrote: I meant that nonreligious people tend to judge entire religions by very superficial criteria.

You do understand that atheists disbelief in the existence of ALL gods, even deist or pantheist gods, not just those gods associated with specific religions, right?

The only criteria I have to use, is has a god been demonstrated to exist. Until that occurs, I don't care what individual religions claim.

It doesn't require the assessment of specific religions to understand that NO god has ever been demonstrated to exist. In fact, religious leaders, holy texts, believers claims, can all be dismissed, until a god is demonstrated to exist. Only after a god is demonstrated to exist, can we then begin to try to discern if it a god of a specific religion, and described in any religious book.

I don't believe in your god for the same reason I don't believe in Zeus, Odin, Ra or pixies
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!

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#95
RE: Why are you an Atheist?
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy there, buddy. When you say pixies, you've gone too far.


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#96
RE: Why are you an Atheist?


I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#97
RE: Why are you an Atheist?
(December 16, 2019 at 5:18 pm)no one Wrote: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy there, buddy. When you say pixies, you've gone too far.



Sorry, how do you feel about goblins??
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!

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#98
RE: Why are you an Atheist?
Are we talking the hobbing kind, or the ones of the nose variety?
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#99
RE: Why are you an Atheist?
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RE: Why are you an Atheist?
(December 16, 2019 at 3:40 pm)Alex K Wrote:
(December 16, 2019 at 1:54 pm)maxolla Wrote: I believe you are referring to mutation not evolution.


It seems like a better term for these observed changes would be mutation not evolution.

No, mutations are one of the drivers of the evolution observed here, evolution by natural selection is when these mutations spread in the population bc they are advantageous, and lead to new properties of the organisms.

The best way I've heard this explained is that mutation is the raw material on which evolution operates.  I was told to imagine a rockslide damming a small stream.  Eventually, a new pond ecosystem would form.  The rockslide is the mutation and the ecosystem is the resultant evolution.

Made sense 40 years ago, makes sense now.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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