Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position

[The Grand Nudger]

No no no, biology couldn't possibly be true...his god is smaller than that, incapable of creating a word where natural processes...you know...work. It just couldn't happen, too much chance..for fucking "god", lol.

[LastPoet]

No no no, biology couldn't possibly be true...his god is smaller than that, incapable of creating a word where natural process...you know...work.

Yet we humans make those amazing dominoe chains, so that in the end they all drop for the amazement of everyone.

Their god just puffed whatever he wanted into existence and thinks just like the believer.

[The Grand Nudger]

Mudmen and rib people.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

And how does "billions of years" invalidate the argument? Do you think of the physical constants as some socks in your attic?

It's actually the other way around, the more time there is for things to go wrong, the more unlikely it becomes for life to arise.


Well, "destroyed" is your side of the story.

Life emerged after by bilions of years those constants of the universe were in place. Life was tuned by these constants, not the other way around. And tuned by death of those beings that had bad genetic traits whyle others that did, thrived and reproduced.

And yes, there is a vast amount of evidence for evolution. It is a fact an undeniable truth. Those like you that deny it, do it from ignorance and worse, for religious motivations as I stand witness. Do yourself a favour and read other books, even experiment what they teach. You can try peas, easy to study even a monk can do it. Reading your favourite religious books and drivel just do... nothing, except perhaps upping your DK effect and personal pride.

I have nothing else to say to you, you would require proper education and a few years studying many books, not just one, to know what you are talking about.

[Bold mine]

Exactly.  Invoking magic to explain why humans evolved on Earth is akin to walking into a clothing shop and being amazed at all the coats.

Boru

[R00tKiT]

OFC he would be, but why do you imagine that would be a problem for me?  What do you think is irrational about being disgusted by a slaver?  It's a great question, since you belong to a slaving religion and worship the god of slaves and slaveholders.

I really don't think you're well versed about what Islam says about slavery, much less of how it was practiced, to start making this sort of bald claims. More importantly, it's easy to shout about slavery existing at the time of Muhammad without further development. I would expect at least that you would put your preconceived, and wrong, opinions about Islam into question.

Simple, you have told me twice now that I cannot judge your child raping warlord, that only peers of his own time could do that. 

Since you insist on the words "raping"/"warlord" with the clear intent of cheap, empty insult, and without willing to discuss the matter objectively, I will stop here. Have a good day.

[The Grand Nudger]

Kloro, lol, a moral relativist like yourself is never going to be successful at changing a moral realists mind about ethical issues. We think of you like you think of children. Incompetent, patently incapable of sound moral judgement.

I don't care how slavery was practiced, only that slavery is practiced. Given divine warrant by your magic book, no less. Your religion is evil, therefore I can't be a part of your religion. Simple as that. Tell me why you don't understand?

Would you join an evil religion?

[R00tKiT]

Life emerged after by bilions of years those constants of the universe were in place. Life was tuned by those constants, not the other way around. And tuned by death of those beings that had bad genetic traits whyle others that did, thrived and reproduced.

Your forgot to mention the conditions that made this tuning possible, which are the relevant part.

And yes, there is a vast amount of evidence for evolution. It is a fact an undeniable truth. Those like you that deny it, do it from ignorance and worse, for religious motivations as I stand witness. Do yourself a favour and read other books, even experiment what they teach. You can try peas, easy to study even a monk can do it. Reading your favourite religious books and drivel just do... nothing, except perhaps upping your DK effect and personal pride.

I have nothing else to say to you, you would require proper education and a few years studying many books, not just one, to know what you are talking about.

I don't recall denying evolution altogether, that's just your strawman urge to make replying easier. It's curious how you so called skeptics would have absolutely no doubt in the existence of a process that took billions of years, and that it worked in every step of the way, while excluding any possibility of intelligent intervention in each and every year in these billions.

And the macroevolution part of your undeniable theory isn't that dense with solid evidence. Certainly not dense enough to make our sense of wonder some completely illusory perception.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

'Ocean (n): A body of water occupying about two thirds of a world made for man, who has no gills.' - Bierce

Boru

[LastPoet]

'Ocean (n): A body of water occupying about two thirds of a world made for man, who has no gills.' - Bierce

Boru

A fine tuner would make oceans filled with beer. My doctor said I have an iron health, so I suppose salted water isn't my thing.

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I don't recall denying evolution altogether, that's just your strawman urge to make replying easier. It's curious how you so called skeptics would have absolutely no doubt in the existence of a process that took billions of years, and that it worked in every step of the way, while excluding any possibility of intelligent intervention in each and every year in these billions.

And the macroevolution part of your undeniable theory isn't that dense with solid evidence. Certainly not dense enough to make our sense of wonder some completely illusory perception.

Well, it seems that the way evolution works, needs no gods. The processes that work are very well explained. Without your puny god inserted into it. There is a vast amount of literature, even experiments any poor person can do to test evolution.

Do yourself a favour and have education. At this point is the best advice I can give and I don't earn enough money to teach asses. Specially willingfull ones.

[The Valkyrie]

Life emerged after by bilions of years those constants of the universe were in place. Life was tuned by those constants, not the other way around. And tuned by death of those beings that had bad genetic traits whyle others that did, thrived and reproduced.

Your forgot to mention the conditions that made this tuning possible, which are the relevant part.

And yes, there is a vast amount of evidence for evolution. It is a fact an undeniable truth. Those like you that deny it, do it from ignorance and worse, for religious motivations as I stand witness. Do yourself a favour and read other books, even experiment what they teach. You can try peas, easy to study even a monk can do it. Reading your favourite religious books and drivel just do... nothing, except perhaps upping your DK effect and personal pride.

I have nothing else to say to you, you would require proper education and a few years studying many books, not just one, to know what you are talking about.

I don't recall denying evolution altogether, that's just your strawman urge to make replying easier. It's curious how you so called skeptics would have absolutely no doubt in the existence of a process that took billions of years, and that it worked in every step of the way, while excluding any possibility of intelligent intervention in each and every year in these billions.

And the macroevolution part of your undeniable theory isn't that dense with solid evidence. Certainly not dense enough to make our sense of wonder some completely illusory perception.

Apart from the fossil and DNA evidence.

Why accept a claim, such as "intelligent intervention" that there's no evidence for?

I could claim that the sky is full of invisible, tiny ducks that crap on us, and that's where rain comes from.

Would you believe me?

How about if it was written in a book?