[Quranic Reflection]: There shall be no compulsion in the acceptance of religion

[brewer]

This is why apostasy is condemned in Islam, threatening belief in God is far worse than threatening life itself.

If your religion/belief is that fragile (you need to kill all that say there is no god) then it's really not much of a belief system to begin with.

And it probably means that you should not be here.

[WinterHold]

The OP. Discuss that or out of this topic.
I don't welcome terrorists or criminals into my topics.

[Silver]

The OP. Discuss that or out of this topic.
I don't welcome terrorists or criminals into my topics.

Still waiting for a response to this question:

If there is no compulsion to adhere to Islam, then tell me what happens to those born of Muslims who stray away from Islam?

[WinterHold]

The OP. Discuss that or out of this topic.
I don't welcome terrorists or criminals into my topics.

Still waiting for a response to this question:

If there is no compulsion to adhere to Islam, then tell me what happens to those born of Muslims who stray away from Islam?

If you follow the Quran, then you will leave them alone to decide their faith.

[The Grand Nudger]

Quick, go tell the others!

[Deesse23]

threatening belief ....is far worse than threatening life ....

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why religions and their followers can be so dangerous to human well being.

[LastPoet]

threatening belief ....is far worse than threatening life ....

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why religions and their followers can be so dangerous to human well being.

And they even say it out loud. Most grievous is that they pretend to have morals, so blinded by their religion that they can't see the fall ahead of them. Made one day we will have a world not without religion, but a world where the religious accept other religions or no religion and keep their religion to the respective temples. Shit, I am daydreaming again.

[Abaddon_ire]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why religions and their followers can be so dangerous to human well being.

And they even say it out loud. Most grievous is that they pretend to have morals, so blinded by their religion that they can't see the fall ahead of them. Made one day we will have a world not without religion, but a world where the religious accept other religions or no religion and keep their religion to the respective temples. Shit, I am daydreaming again.

Or listening to "Imagine".

Personally, I don't buy a religion that advocates conversion at the point of a sword, or the muzzle of a gun. Kloro will claim that is not "real" islam. Perhaps it isn't. But it is most of it as practiced in the real world. Saying those muslims are theologically wrong is useless. It doesn't matter. They are actively practicing that in their daily lives. It matters not a whit that Kloro thinks that is a wrong interpretation of islam. He is fringe islam at best. The rest of islam keeps on trucking with the random killings, and gross misogyny, and terrorism, and suicide bombings and so forth  all in the name of an interpretation of islam that Kloro claims is incorrect.

So the inevitable question occurs. Does Kloro think that the actions of islam as a whole are wrong? Will he condemn the suicide loons? Stand by for some industrial grade apologetics.

And lest I be accused of singling out islam, all of the abrahamic religions are in the same boat. All of them operate on power and abuse of the vulnerable without exception. With judaism and christianity, at least we are at last starting to hold the bastards accountable. Islam is intentionally constructed so that nobody can be held accountable.

If we can go after the horrible priests, pastors, and rabbis that abuse children, why is it that we cannot hold the imams to the same standard?

[R00tKiT]

Or listening to "Imagine".

Personally, I don't buy a religion that advocates conversion at the point of a sword, or the muzzle of a gun. Kloro will claim that is not "real" islam. Perhaps it isn't. But it is most of it as practiced in the real world.

Practiced by whom? You misinformed ignorant? What is the proportion of extremists out of the entire Muslim population? How often - and why is apostasy applied? Just do some research to see if we really murder people because of their belief ...???

Saying those muslims are theologically wrong is useless. It doesn't matter. They are actively practicing that in their daily lives. It matters not a whit that Kloro thinks that is a wrong interpretation of islam. He is fringe islam at best. The rest of islam keeps on trucking with the random killings, and gross misogyny, and terrorism, and suicide bombings and so forth  all in the name of an interpretation of islam that Kloro claims is incorrect.

And whose interpretation of Islam should the majority take then, yours ? It's because of your ignorance and inability to nuance your ideas about Islam that there are so many interpretations. If only people can keep their mouth shut and understand, nobody would blow themselves in the name of any religion.

[The Grand Nudger]

That's a good question. Do you consider yourself an extremist? What portion of muslims believe in what you believe..in your estimation?