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RE: Cardinal George Pell has conviction overturned
April 15, 2020 at 3:31 am
We all know (well I hope we do) that a not guilty finding in court, an acquittal, or overturning of a conviction, does not mean the person is innocent.
From a legal standpoint they may be, but nit necessarily in reality (right, OJ?).
There are many factors that can influence a judge, a jury, or lawyers. And there are factors that can influence a conviction or sentence.
Unfortunately, some of these factors are wealth; fame, and influence if the individual or the organisation they belong to.
Now my mother and her sisters are firmly in the camp of "Pell can't do wrong because he's a man of god" camp. They will bend over backwards to defend him (though aunt Sally is more likely to bend forward).
And I think it's ironic that the term "witch hunt" is being used to defend someone from the organisation that invented them...
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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RE: Cardinal George Pell has conviction overturned
April 15, 2020 at 3:35 am
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Quote:Not at all, Vic cops have got nuffin.
Says you
Quote:Their reputation has taken another huge blow and the Cardinal walks free
Nah there rep is fine from OJ Pell getting off on a technicality
And th cries of phoney Christian martyrs everywhere fall on deaf ears
(April 15, 2020 at 3:31 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: We all know (well I hope we do) that a not guilty finding in court, an acquittal, or overturning of a conviction, does not mean the person is innocent.
From a legal standpoint they may be, but nit necessarily in reality (right, OJ?).
There are many factors that can influence a judge, a jury, or lawyers. And there are factors that can influence a conviction or sentence.
Unfortunately, some of these factors are wealth; fame, and influence if the individual or the organisation they belong to.
Now my mother and her sisters are firmly in the camp of "Pell can't do wrong because he's a man of god" camp. They will bend over backwards to defend him (though aunt Sally is more likely to bend forward).
And I think it's ironic that the term "witch hunt" is being used to defend someone from the organisation that invented them... Yup OJ Pell
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RE: Cardinal George Pell has conviction overturned
April 15, 2020 at 6:15 am
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(April 15, 2020 at 3:31 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: We all know (well I hope we do) that a not guilty finding in court, an acquittal, or overturning of a conviction, does not mean the person is innocent.
From a legal standpoint they may be, but nit necessarily in reality (right, OJ?).
There are many factors that can influence a judge, a jury, or lawyers. And there are factors that can influence a conviction or sentence.
Unfortunately, some of these factors are wealth; fame, and influence if the individual or the organisation they belong to.
Now my mother and her sisters are firmly in the camp of "Pell can't do wrong because he's a man of god" camp. They will bend over backwards to defend him (though aunt Sally is more likely to bend forward).
And I think it's ironic that the term "witch hunt" is being used to defend someone from the organisation that invented them...
I don't need to defend a person whose already been defended successfully
Witch hunt is the term some media outlets have used to describe the actions of the Victoria police
Im certainly not saying Pell is innocent cos he's a man of God
In the 1990s a pedophile scandal was uncovered here. Many priests were convicted
Ask your mum if Gerald Ridsdale is a "man of God". His crimes are deplorable
Anyway, seven judges in the Australian High Court had no choice but to uphold the law
The testimony of a complainant is insufficient evidence to convict someone
Otherwise anyone could just make a claim from 40 years ago simply to destroy someones life
Does anyone think that we should believe all complainants and convict people on just their uncorroborated testimony?
Or only when its against a religion or church do we assume guilt?
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RE: Cardinal George Pell has conviction overturned
April 15, 2020 at 9:51 am
Excuses excuses
"Change was inevitable"
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RE: Cardinal George Pell has conviction overturned
April 15, 2020 at 5:18 pm
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(April 15, 2020 at 9:51 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Excuses excuses
Facts are facts
What makes people say his guilty without any evidence? Hate, pure hate
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RE: Cardinal George Pell has conviction overturned
April 15, 2020 at 5:26 pm
(April 15, 2020 at 5:18 pm)Agnostico Wrote: (April 15, 2020 at 9:51 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Excuses excuses
Facts facts
If anyone thinks the man is guilty of something then present your case, put forward your evidence
This all just exposes the discriminatory hatred some people have towards religion Nope Excuses Excuses
Any case i give you will deny till the end .So why waste my fingers ?
Nah it shows the rational disgust we have at a crook getting off and your obsession with defending a corrupt religious figure
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RE: Cardinal George Pell has conviction overturned
April 15, 2020 at 5:27 pm
(April 15, 2020 at 5:26 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: (April 15, 2020 at 5:18 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Facts facts
If anyone thinks the man is guilty of something then present your case, put forward your evidence
This all just exposes the discriminatory hatred some people have towards religion Nope Excuses Excuses
Any case i give you will deny till the end .So why waste my fingers ?
Nah it shows the rational disgust we have at a crook getting off and your obsession with defending a corrupt religious figure
And your evidence???
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RE: Cardinal George Pell has conviction overturned
April 15, 2020 at 5:32 pm
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(April 15, 2020 at 5:27 pm)Agnostico Wrote: (April 15, 2020 at 5:26 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Nope Excuses Excuses
Any case i give you will deny till the end .So why waste my fingers ?
Nah it shows the rational disgust we have at a crook getting off and your obsession with defending a corrupt religious figure
And your evidence??? Evidence you will deny till your denying beath simply to be contrarian
I may not respect the bible but at times it gets something right
"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
"Change was inevitable"
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RE: Cardinal George Pell has conviction overturned
April 15, 2020 at 5:36 pm
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(April 15, 2020 at 5:32 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: (April 15, 2020 at 5:27 pm)Agnostico Wrote: And your evidence??? Evidence you will deny till your denying beath simply to be contrarian
I may not respect the bible but at times it gets something right
"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
WTF r u talking about... Hehehehe... You are a trippa...
U have no evidence, no one does. The High Courts ruling stands, innocent.
(April 15, 2020 at 5:32 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: (April 15, 2020 at 5:27 pm)Agnostico Wrote: And your evidence??? Evidence you will deny till your denying beath simply to be contrarian
I may not respect the bible but at times it gets something right
"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
WTF is this now planet of the apes... Hehehehe...
This is your evidence... Boy the hatred is deep in you
Or is that u SUNGULA??? Are you an ape man? The missing link?
Anyway like I said
Anti-theist hatred... Exposed...
Lack of moral conscious... Exposed
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RE: Cardinal George Pell has conviction overturned
April 15, 2020 at 5:45 pm
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Quote:WTF r u talking about... Hehehehe... You are a trippa...
Well that went over your head .No surprise
Quote:U have no evidence, no one does. The High Courts ruling stands, innocent.
Yes we do and the council pulled an OJ
Quote:WTF is this now planet of the apes... Hehehehe...
Wow something else that went over your .Again no surprise
Quote:This is your evidence... Boy the hatred is deep in you
No it's not my evidence .Again something that went over your head .No hate at least none that's undeserved or unreasonable .
So again you show your apologist leanings and foolishness
(April 15, 2020 at 5:36 pm)Agnostico Wrote: (April 15, 2020 at 5:32 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Evidence you will deny till your denying beath simply to be contrarian
I may not respect the bible but at times it gets something right
"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
WTF r u talking about... Hehehehe... You are a trippa...
U have no evidence, no one does. The High Courts ruling stands, innocent.
(April 15, 2020 at 5:32 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Evidence you will deny till your denying beath simply to be contrarian
I may not respect the bible but at times it gets something right
"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
WTF is this now planet of the apes... Hehehehe...
This is your evidence... Boy the hatred is deep in you
Or is that u SUNGULA??? Are you an ape man? The missing link?
Anyway like I said
Anti-theist hatred... Exposed...
Lack of moral conscious... Exposed
Nope again you missed the point .Again no surprise
Like you said but never show .And the only thing you expose is apologist leanings and ability to project your faults onto others or whole cloth invent them for narrative convenience.
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