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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
May 11, 2020 at 1:28 pm
(May 11, 2020 at 11:54 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Quote:Fact - USSR - Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics
A country something doesn't make it that thing .The USSR may have called itself socialist but in reality i was state capitalist
SUNGULA Wrote:Neither of these counties are socialist .China is state capitalist now and even during Mao's time it wasn't communist it was state capitalist , And Venezuela isn't socialist ethier it's also state capitalist Right
SUNGULA Wrote:My criteria is fine your definition of what a socialist country is at fualt
None because no socialist country exists at all. The ones called socialist countries aren't Yes
SUNGULA Wrote:No it's not . Communism is worker ownership of the means of production and it's not utopian as Marx made it clear struggle is needed
That's not utopian and nowhere does it say everyone gets the same so no your still wrong Correct
SUNGULA Wrote:Yes i was that was my point they didn't live up to the ideal
Nor did i say you said that . Of course Marx believed in his own system.
Actually no i pointed out your errors True
SUNGULA Wrote:Actually their was .
Fascist Italy had race laws and treated the non white people in it's North African holdings as second class citizens .It also maintained laws against Sicilians And Italy engaged in ethnic cleansing during the war . And Spain had Anti Semitic legislation made as early as 1938 ,
Fascist Spain treated racial minorities in Spain as second class citizens and treated the non white people of it's moroccan holdings as second class citizens . Not to mention Franco fully accepted he idea of international Jewry the same as Hitler and despite what he would later claim he help the nazi's catch Jews and send them to occupied france .Franco also rolled back protections for Jews
Fascist Portugal treated racial minorities in Portugal as second class citizens and many of it's colonial laws were racist Yup
SUNGULA Wrote:1. I didn't say there wasn't variety
2.No country really even tried
3. Stalin had Trotsky killed not over ideology but because Stalin feared Trotsky influence
4. Lastly i never said there was no disagreement Factual
SUNGULA Wrote:Nope i simply respond to what you say and you deem any criticism antagonism
Nope i have not contradicted myself at any time . You keep repeating this silly idea .
Nope i don' hate you i just think your constantly wrong and seem weird delusion i just contradict you for no reason
Yup
Quote:Socialism - any economic or political system based on government ownership and control of important businesses and methods of production
Nope i already defined it perfectly this definition is poor
Quote:Communism - an economic system based on public ownership of property and control of the methods of production, and in which no person profits from the work of
Replace public with worker owned and this would be correct
U responded to urself... LoL... 
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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
May 11, 2020 at 1:45 pm
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(May 11, 2020 at 1:28 pm)Agnostico Wrote: (May 11, 2020 at 11:54 am)SUNGULA Wrote: A country something doesn't make it that thing .The USSR may have called itself socialist but in reality i was state capitalist
Right
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Correct
True
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Factual
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Nope i already defined it perfectly this definition is poor
Replace public with worker owned and this would be correct
U responded to urself... LoL... And i still look better in this debate then you. How sad is that for you ? Then again i responding to myself would be only way i could have intelligent debate because you sure not up to the task .
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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
May 11, 2020 at 1:47 pm
(May 10, 2020 at 4:25 pm)masoni Wrote: (May 10, 2020 at 12:53 am)Huggy Bear Wrote: *emphasis mine*
It's not a translation, it's what the bible literally says.
Matthew 19
17 So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”
Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’
19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
- Matthew 19:18 christians translate it from hebrew the language of bubble
Actually christians didn't translate from Hebrew, they translated from a bad Greek translation of the Hebrew successor to the original Aramaic.
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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
May 11, 2020 at 3:24 pm
(May 11, 2020 at 1:47 pm)Nomad Wrote: (May 10, 2020 at 4:25 pm)masoni Wrote: christians translate it from hebrew the language of bubble
Actually christians didn't translate from Hebrew, they translated from a bad Greek translation of the Hebrew successor to the original Aramaic.
Some used the Septuagint. Some used the originals.
Only a tiny fraction of the OT was in Aramaic. What is this "original Aramaic" you mention?
St. Jerome began by using the Septuagint, but by 390 was translating from the original Hebrew.
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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
May 11, 2020 at 3:47 pm
For whatever it's worth, I'm perfectly happy to stipulate that God has never killed anyone, anywhere, for any reason.
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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
May 11, 2020 at 10:39 pm
(May 11, 2020 at 3:47 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: For whatever it's worth, I'm perfectly happy to stipulate that God has never killed anyone, anywhere, for any reason.
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what about killing the entire town if one person worships another god
deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT
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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
May 11, 2020 at 11:13 pm
(May 11, 2020 at 10:39 pm)masoni Wrote: (May 11, 2020 at 3:47 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: For whatever it's worth, I'm perfectly happy to stipulate that God has never killed anyone, anywhere, for any reason.
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what about killing the entire town if one person worships another god
deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NLT
You're still writing in a confused way.
There is no God.
The Bible was written by people.
People made those rules.
People carried out those rules.
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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
May 11, 2020 at 11:20 pm
(May 11, 2020 at 11:13 pm)Belacqua Wrote: (May 11, 2020 at 10:39 pm)masoni Wrote: what about killing the entire town if one person worships another god
deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NLT
You're still writing in a confused way.
There is no God.
The Bible was written by people.
People made those rules.
People carried out those rules. Once again you don't get it . People killed those people because they believed their god said so . The people who wrote the bible sure as hell didn't think they were man made .
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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
May 12, 2020 at 1:45 am
(May 11, 2020 at 10:39 pm)masoni Wrote: (May 11, 2020 at 3:47 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: For whatever it's worth, I'm perfectly happy to stipulate that God has never killed anyone, anywhere, for any reason.
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what about killing the entire town if one person worships another god
deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NLT
Well in fiction yhwh has killed billions, almost as many people as Jessica Fletcher.
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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
May 12, 2020 at 4:35 am
(May 11, 2020 at 10:39 pm)masoni Wrote: (May 11, 2020 at 3:47 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: For whatever it's worth, I'm perfectly happy to stipulate that God has never killed anyone, anywhere, for any reason.
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what about killing the entire town if one person worships another god
deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NLT
As Belacqua said, God didn't do that.
Blaming God for killing people makes about as much sense as blaming Santa for not getting you all the toys you asked for. The culprit is elsewhere.
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