(May 10, 2020 at 8:03 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(May 10, 2020 at 7:55 am)SUNGULA Wrote: I'm just saying if you don't care why respond? And i'm not the one who claimed they didn't care .

You sound like 98.6% of the kids at Purdue.

(May 10, 2020 at 5:07 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(May 10, 2020 at 4:02 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Again, I don't think that you've looked into this at all...but that hardly answers the question of why allah isn't doing what he said he would.

I've never seen an aerial unit get backed down by angels, and I've never found that anti-insurgency infantry units are trembling in the face of divine magic.  You?  You said that this verse only applied in war...but it doesn't look like it applies in war either.  Like your dreams of wielding a melee weapon in holy war...it's just not a thing that's happening.

You get that, right?

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-to leave you somethin...

You implanted words into my mouth, but I said the exact opposite, and yes this verse only applies in war,

(May 9, 2020 at 4:37 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(May 9, 2020 at 11:00 am)Nomad Wrote: Stalin was Russian orthodox christian for most of his life, including the years between 1941 and his death.

Quote:Stalin called for an "atheist five year plan" from 1932–1937, led by the LMG, in order to completely eliminate all religious expression in the USSR. It was declared that the concept of God would disappear from the Soviet Union.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-...80%931941)

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Non-religious folks are the real danger

(May 10, 2020 at 3:28 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'm certain that you have access to google.  I just wanted to point out that this entire line is an excuse for bitching about atheists.  The terms mean specific and easily understood things.  More of a preamble to a tired complaint than a description of reality.

Quote:Paranoid

(May 10, 2020 at 12:53 am)Huggy Bear Wrote:

(May 9, 2020 at 11:19 pm)masoni Wrote: christians typically translate this commandment as thou shalt not murder, and then define murder as unjustified killing.this is how they justify war, death penalty, and eating meat. but they usually don't realize it also causes the commandment to become meaningless because everyone agrees unjustified killing is unjustified.  it's like saying bad things are bad, it's definitionally true.

*emphasis mine*
It's not a translation, it's what the bible literally says.

Matthew 19
17 So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 
19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”

- Matthew 19:18

(May 10, 2020 at 8:08 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Really guys, this is not topic about communism and capitalism, but how religion inspires muslims to kill other people just because they are different religion.

Like in 1989 when more than 300 believers killed each other in northern India because of a holy-ground dispute at Ayodhya. Hindus attempted to build a temple on the spot where they think Lord Rama was born, but Muslims refused to remove a mosque from the site. Murderous violence ensued, with roving bands of Hindus torching Muslim homes.

(May 10, 2020 at 1:38 am)Ranjr Wrote: God doesn't kill people.  People kill people.  There is no celestial enforcer, no purely kind person, no perfect form of government.  Whether the idea comes from ancient fiction, local myth, or celebrated thinker, it's still an idea who's best chance of working comes within a carefully worded hypothetical.  They all eventually land as bugs on a bumper.  

I know it's much to ask, but don't ride your pet ideology into the ground.  Pull the rip cord.  Moreover, don't deny an ideology that will buy you time.  It's not like you have to lock it in.  Firm belief is the horsecock aimed at your orifice.

(May 10, 2020 at 2:27 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(May 9, 2020 at 11:19 pm)masoni Wrote: christians typically translate this commandment as thou shalt not murder, and then define murder as unjustified killing.this is how they justify war, death penalty, and eating meat. but they usually don't realize it also causes the commandment to become meaningless because everyone agrees unjustified killing is unjustified.  it's like saying bad things are bad, it's definitionally true.

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https://quran.com/8

I apologize the verse "does exist" in sura 8.
But still it is a "war-only" verse; it is preceded by verse 5 and 6 which tell the story of how Mohammed's God promised the believers to be supported by angels in battle:


https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

Quote:Sura 8, The Quran:

( 5 )   [It is] just as when your Lord brought you out of your home [for the battle of Badr] in truth, while indeed, a party among the believers were unwilling,

( 6 )   Arguing with you concerning the truth after it had become clear, as if they were being driven toward death while they were looking on.

Indeed in battle, I will expect my commander to tell me "aim for the heads and cripple your foe".
In no way this is a license for killing people outside of warfare.

(May 10, 2020 at 4:25 pm)masoni Wrote: christians translate it from hebrew the language of bubble

(May 10, 2020 at 5:55 pm)Belacqua Wrote:

(May 10, 2020 at 4:25 pm)masoni Wrote: christians translate it from hebrew the language of bubble

Ah, yes. Hebrew, the language of bubble.