One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many

[WinterHold]

Shhhhh, troll.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Shhhhh, troll.

Nope and you will not tell me to be silent clown!!!

[Pat Mustard]

What follows is quoted from Sahih Muslim, one the most renowned collections of authentic hadiths; 

He (the enquirer) again said: Inform me about the hour (of the Doom). He (the Holy Prophet) remarked: One who is asked knows no more than the one who is inquiring (about it). He (the inquirer) said: Tell me some of its indications. He (the Holy Prophet) said: That the slave-girl will give birth to her mistress and master, that you will find barefooted, destitute goat-herds vying with one another in the construction of magnificent buildings. [Source : https://sunnah.com/muslim/1/1]

'Barefooted, destitute goat-herds' incontrovertibly refers to inhabitants of any country in the Arabian peninsula. These folks, according to Muhammad, will compete with each other about building the tallest skyscrapers. The Arabic equivalent of "vying with one another", tatawala' تطاول is more expressive, being derived from the word toul' طول literally meaning length. The reader can easily check the accuracy of these translations. Muhammad clearly referred to buildings, guaranteeing that this prophecy can't be misinterpreted in any other way.

Muhammad's prophecy came true in the modern era, there are many skyscrapers in numerous countries belonging to the Arab league:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ta...rab_League.

Now let's hear our dear skeptics complaining of the vagueness of Muhammad's prophecies ;

Bullshit.

[R00tKiT]

You said the hadith talked about "length", nothing about tall or higher, that's your (an) interpretation.

Most translations of the hadith do contain the words tall/high;

when you see the barefoot, naked, destitute shepherds competing in making tall buildings.

[https://sunnah.com/nasai/47/6]

“And if you see the barefoot, naked, shepherds of camels competing [for praise] in the construction of high-rise buildings, then this is from among the signs [of the Hour].”

[https://yaqeeninstitute.org/mohammad-elshinawy/the-prophecies-of-prophet-muhammad/#ftnt46]

So it's not my interpretation, it's exactly what the original hadith in Arabic says, it's just that some translations lose this meaning.

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.What does it mean to be able to build Skyscrapers, or to even write Shakespeare, if we are not smart enough to accept we are an invasive species? The species causing the most damage to life right now are humans.

I value the good in humanity, I always will. And of course I would not want to go back to the days before modern medicine or modern communication. But we are the same species that has managed to create so much plastic, there is a giant island of pollution bigger than the state of Texas floating in our oceans.


As smart as our species is, we are a victim of our own success at the same time.

I think your reply is off topic. As I said, it's hard to think of an improvement upon this prophecy without jeopardizing ancient people' ability to understand it.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

You said the hadith talked about "length", nothing about tall or higher, that's your (an) interpretation.

Most translations of the hadiths do contain the words tall/high;

when you see the barefoot, naked, destitute shepherds competing in making tall buildings.

[https://sunnah.com/nasai/47/6]

“And if you see the barefoot, naked, shepherds of camels competing [for praise] in the construction of high-rise buildings, then this is from among the signs [of the Hour].”

[https://yaqeeninstitute.org/mohammad-elshinawy/the-prophecies-of-prophet-muhammad/#ftnt46]

So it's not my interpretation, it's exactly what the original hadith in Arabic says, it's just that some translations lose this meaning.

This is really very funny.  You keep adding to and changing the translations in a desperate attempt to address the flaws pointed out in your non-prophecy.

Tell the truth - you're not really a Muslim, are you? You're actually a rabbi trying to make Islam look bad.

Boru

[R00tKiT]

This is really very funny.  You keep adding to and changing the translations in a desperate attempt to address the flaws pointed out in your non-prophecy.

I think I added some fucking references to every translation above, you can click the link and check them out yourself.

And if you're not familiar with the existence of variants of one hadith - because, you now, Muhammad can say some important stuff to his companions many times in different ways- I suggest you take some time to do research.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

This is really very funny.  You keep adding to and changing the translations in a desperate attempt to address the flaws pointed out in your non-prophecy.

I think I added some fucking references to every translation above, you can click the link and check them out yourself.

And if you're not familiar with the existence of variants of one hadith - because, you now, Muhammad can say some important stuff to his companions many times in different ways- I suggest you take some time to do research.

I’ll take it under consideration, rebbe.

Boru

[onlinebiker]

What utter garbage.

An ACCURATE "prophecy" needs the following -

Who
What
Where
When
....

You tell us "Mohammed is going to perform an unnatural act with a goat behind the barn at midnite."

That't not prophecy - it's just knowing way too much about Mohammed's schedule.


You tell us "Mohammed is going to perform an unnatural act with a goat behind the barn at midnite and the goat is going to enjoy it." - THAT'S prophecy.

[Ranjr]

Science makes more accurate, useful, and verifiable predictions.

I predict that near the end of the century, Dubai will return to barefoot goat herders.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Most translations of the hadith do contain the words tall/high;

when you see the barefoot, naked, destitute shepherds competing in making tall buildings.

[https://sunnah.com/nasai/47/6]

“And if you see the barefoot, naked, shepherds of camels competing [for praise] in the construction of high-rise buildings, then this is from among the signs [of the Hour].”

[https://yaqeeninstitute.org/mohammad-elshinawy/the-prophecies-of-prophet-muhammad/#ftnt46]

So it's not my interpretation, it's exactly what the original hadith in Arabic says, it's just that some translations lose this meaning.

Same difference 

I think I added some fucking references to every translation above, you can click the link and check them out yourself.

And if you're not familiar with the existence of variants of one hadith - because, you now, Muhammad can say some important stuff to his companions many times in different ways- I suggest you take some time to do research 

Irrelevant 

I think your reply is off topic. As I said, it's hard to think of an improvement upon this prophecy without jeopardizing ancient people' ability to understand it.

Then your not very bright and again you still seem to think ancient weren't either