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One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
#61
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
Quote:No, pal. They don't. We could've called quarks, gluons, bosons, cartesian coordinates, carbon, einsteinium... etc. something else. All these labels and constructs are ad hoc choices. You're asking for a prophecy containing modern specifics close to these ad hoc choices, and I explained to you that this prophecy is useless to people hearing it.
Again you assume people were dumb or Mo sucked at descriptions


Quote:In brief, you're asking for something logically impossible - a valid prophecy using modern specifics and understandable to people who lived before these specifics were even created - and you complain when you don't get it.
Actually it's not logically impossible if Mo was any good at his job as a prophet


Quote:And the hadith refers specifically to the fact that people will compete in building higher and higher buildings in a specific area
It's not specific if he were being specific there was a shit ton of other far more accurate ways and again competing to build grand structures wasn't new

Quote: -what nobody had any damned clue about. Back then
False




Quote:, they usually competed about conquering the largest lands, or winning poetry challenges.
Competing over tall buildings was done the ancient world and what says dominance what says power ,wealth , and populous like a grand structure to immortalized yourself that's pierces the sky . That ecilipese your rivals and forebears and projects your power far and wide . That's something any king or warlord could appreciate and is seen throughout history

Quote: I really don't know what Muhammad could've said more to make this prophecy clearer to you, while remaining intelligible to people hearing him back then.
Then your not very bright
"Change was inevitable"


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#62
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
(May 15, 2020 at 10:06 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(May 15, 2020 at 9:53 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Good predictions involve math, algebra, geometry, physics, quantum physics.

No, pal. They don't. We could've called quarks, gluons, bosons, cartesian coordinates, carbon, einsteinium... etc. something else. All these labels and constructs are ad hoc choices. You're asking for a prophecy containing modern specifics close to these ad hoc choices, and I explained to you that this prophecy is useless to people hearing it.

In brief, you're asking for something logically impossible - a valid prophecy using modern specifics and understandable to people who lived before these specifics were even created - and you complain when you don't get it.

(May 15, 2020 at 9:53 pm)Brian37 Wrote: So when you talk about buildings, every damned society worldwide was building buildings at the time. But nobody had any damned clue how big they could get in modern times.

And the hadith refers specifically to the fact that people will compete in building higher and higher buildings in a specific area -what nobody had any damned clue about. Back then, they usually competed about conquering the largest lands, or winning poetry challenges. I really don't know what Muhammad could've said more to make this prophecy clearer to you, while remaining intelligible to people hearing him back then.

Humans are NOT the most important species on this planet. We are just one of billions of species. We are not even the only species that has learned to use tools. 





Octopi are pretty fucking smart too.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/...elligence/

And considering cockroaches outnumber humans. And have been around longer than the Koran/bible/torah, Vedas ect ect ect...  Everytime I try to kill one in my house, seeing it freeze feet away, then dart like a baseball player, hockey player, NFL running back, NBA player, while I do get some, far more get away.

I forgot what nature show I saw it on, but the host said it best, "Humans are good at being humans, but we are not good at being penguins".... ect ect ect... meaning any other life.

What does it mean to be able to build Skyscrapers, or to even write Shakespeare, if we are not smart enough to accept we are an invasive species? The species causing the most damage to life right now are humans.

I value the good in humanity, I always will. And of course I would not want to go back to the days before modern medicine or modern communication. But we are the same species that has managed to create so much plastic, there is a giant island of pollution bigger than the state of Texas floating in our oceans.


As smart as our species is, we are a victim of our own success at the same time.
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#63
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
Klor dwells under the strange notion that using grand buildings to compete or project power to rivals isn't ancient . Or even intuitive .
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#64
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
Moo-Ham-ed was a pedophile
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#65
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
So to sum up 

Mo wasn't specific saying people or nations will build grand structures to compete with  one another for power, prestige, etc etc is ancient and very attuned to human nature . None the things listed are exclusive to the region he lived nor is the idea that arabs would embrace the aforementioned principle  of building outlandish . And if Mo was able see the future there is no reason he couldn't have been more precise on things like location arabs knew about fucking locations and navigation  .What people were wearing as it wasn't that different then to now . No reason he could not have given or city names . Hell even the old testament wasn't that vague or lazy .Hell Mo didn't even bother to say the towers were made of metal and glass which would have really stood out . People are smart they can understand more than Klor thinks .
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#66
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
Why am I never there when they are handing out top-notch hallucinogens?
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#67
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
What's wrong with the Quran?
Follow it, and don't follow the Hadith:

https://abuaminaelias.com/dailyhadithonl...oned-hajj/

See what I mean?
The Quran has the answer, not the Hadiths.
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#68
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
(May 16, 2020 at 1:38 am)WinterHold Wrote: What's wrong with the Quran?
Follow it, and don't follow the Hadith:

https://abuaminaelias.com/dailyhadithonl...oned-hajj/

See what I mean?
The Quran has the answer, not the Hadiths.
That has fuck all to do with anything
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#69
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
(May 16, 2020 at 1:39 am)SUNGULA Wrote:
(May 16, 2020 at 1:38 am)WinterHold Wrote: What's wrong with the Quran?
Follow it, and don't follow the Hadith:

https://abuaminaelias.com/dailyhadithonl...oned-hajj/

See what I mean?
The Quran has the answer, not the Hadiths.
That has fuck all to do with anything

The Hadith gives mixed messages.

Gog and Magog -according to the Hadith- are the end of the signs signifying the advent of judgement day.
But the Quran clearly -and explicitly- says that judgement day comes instantly and surprisingly.
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#70
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
(May 16, 2020 at 1:52 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(May 16, 2020 at 1:39 am)SUNGULA Wrote: That has fuck all to do with anything

The Hadith gives mixed messages.

Gog and Magog -according to the Hadith- are the end of the signs signifying the advent of judgement day.
But the Quran clearly -and explicitly- says that judgement day comes instantly and surprisingly.
Which again has nothing to do with what we were discussing  Doh
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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