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RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
May 17, 2020 at 11:33 am
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Quote:I thought you can handle one or two different translations of a hadith without complaints..? Did you expect some one-to-one correspondance between Arabic and English...? By the way, naked replaces the word destitute, not barefoot, as I explained some three or four times already.
He can handle your nonesense fine .Yes there should be if this is suppose to be something anyone can understand. And that makes no diffence at all
Quote:Actually, we can state what he was talking about with incredible precision, so much so that billions of people imitate every gesture in his prayers, ablution, etc.
No you can't . And there is no evidence they do just dogma
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RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
May 17, 2020 at 11:37 am
For people still complaining about how vague the prophecy is, how about this one : “There are angels on the roads leading to Medina. Neither the plague nor the Antichrist will enter it." [Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī, no. 5733]
Bring one example of a plague pandemic [not viral pandemic like COVID-19 or other types of pandemic] that once happened in Medinah and you will successfully destroy Islam!
I'll wait.
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RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
May 17, 2020 at 11:40 am
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(May 17, 2020 at 11:37 am)Klorophyll Wrote: For people still complaining about how vague the prophecy is, how about this one : “There are angels on the roads leading to Medina. Neither the plague nor the Antichrist will enter it." [Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī, no. 5733]
Bring one example of a plague pandemic [not viral pandemic like COVID-19 or other types of pandemic] that once happened in Medinah and you will successfully destroy Islam!
I'll wait. The fact a lethal plague doesn't hit a certain spot isn't a prophecy sorry and plague is viral or bacterial by any common definition . Of course your going to try and define plague in a bullshit way .
Oh and there is this
Quote:Cholera outbreaks in multiple years throughout the 19th century claimed thousands of pilgrims’ lives during the hajj. One cholera outbreak in the holy cities of Mecca and Medina in 1858 forced thousands of Egyptians to flee to Egypt’s Red Sea border, where they were quarantined before being allowed back in.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/p...180974735/
Hmm
Quote:[b]lera[/b] is an infectious disease caused by a bacterium called Vibrio [b]cholerae[/b]. The bacteria typically live in waters that are somewhat salty and .
But even with this .This prophecy isn't impressive at all saying some place isn't going to get specific sub category of diseases isn't impressive
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RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
May 17, 2020 at 11:44 am
(May 17, 2020 at 11:37 am)Klorophyll Wrote: Bring one example of a plague pandemic [not viral pandemic like COVID-19 or other types of pandemic]
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RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
May 17, 2020 at 11:52 am
(May 17, 2020 at 11:37 am)Klorophyll Wrote: For people still complaining about how vague the prophecy is, how about this one : “There are angels on the roads leading to Medina. Neither the plague nor the Antichrist will enter it." [Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī, no. 5733]
Bring one example of a plague pandemic [not viral pandemic like COVID-19 or other types of pandemic] that once happened in Medinah and you will successfully destroy Islam!
I'll wait
Like the short dicked goathearding twats who wrote that tripe would know the difference.
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RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
May 17, 2020 at 11:59 am
(May 17, 2020 at 11:27 am)Klorophyll Wrote: (May 16, 2020 at 2:16 pm)brewer Wrote: Then you, or anyone, can't really state precisely just what the hell he was talking about.
It must be very difficult when you have to fight this hard to justify a fantasy.
Actually, we can state what he was talking about with incredible precision, so much so that billions of people imitate every gesture in his prayers, ablution, etc.
Argumentum ad populum, nothing about precision there. Just lack of independent thought.
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RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
May 17, 2020 at 12:02 pm
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(May 17, 2020 at 11:52 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Like the short dicked goathearding twats who wrote that tripe would know the difference.
They actually do, pal. Our ancestors did associate plagues to fever, diarrhea, seizures.. in contrast with coughs, sore throats, etc.
(May 17, 2020 at 11:59 am)brewer Wrote: Argumentum ad populum, nothing about precision there. Just lack of independent thought.
Why did you expect a formal argument when I didn't pretend there is one myself ? You asked that Muslims don't know what Muhammad precisely said, I answered if it were the case, you wouldn't find that many people praying the exact same way.
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RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
May 17, 2020 at 12:09 pm
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Quote:They actually do, pal. Our ancestors did associate plagues to fever, diarrhea, seizures.. in contrast with coughs, sore throats, etc.
Lol accept plagues (the black death for instance) cause coughing and sore throats too . And coronavirus can cause diarrhea and fever and even seizures on occasion .
Quote:Why did you expect a formal argument when I didn't pretend there is one myself ? You asked that Muslims don't know what Muhammad precisely said, I answered if it were the case, you wouldn't find that many people praying the exact same way.
That doesn't follow
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RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
May 17, 2020 at 12:39 pm
Quote:Actually, we can state what he was talking about with incredible precision, so much so that billions of people imitate every gesture in his prayers, ablution, etc.
Yeah, no other religion does that.
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RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
May 17, 2020 at 12:51 pm
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(May 17, 2020 at 11:40 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Oh and there is this
Quote:Cholera outbreaks in multiple years throughout the 19th century claimed thousands of pilgrims’ lives during the hajj. One cholera outbreak in the holy cities of Mecca and Medina in 1858 forced thousands of Egyptians to flee to Egypt’s Red Sea border, where they were quarantined before being allowed back in.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/p...180974735/
Hmm
Quote:[b]lera[/b] is an infectious disease caused by a bacterium called Vibrio [b]cholerae[/b]. The bacteria typically live in waters that are somewhat salty and .
I think you can easily find the most common definition of the plague, in particular, it's caused by the bacterium Yersinia pestis. Clearly, cholera doesn't match the definition.
(May 17, 2020 at 12:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yeah, no other religion does that.
Boru
Christianity doesn't do that, for a start. They don't have any reliable text of what Jesus said, or did.
(May 17, 2020 at 11:44 am)Deesse23 Wrote: (May 17, 2020 at 11:37 am)Klorophyll Wrote: Bring one example of a plague pandemic [not viral pandemic like COVID-19 or other types of pandemic]
What's so funny, pal.? Plague has a specific definition, and it's caused by a specific kind of bacteria. Therefore viral pandemics really can't be called plagues.
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