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US police brutality item
RE: US police brutality item
(May 30, 2020 at 8:13 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:
(May 30, 2020 at 7:59 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: You want a free pass to be a criminal...


Got it....


No. 

Final answer.

Nope, I see them as patriots, in the same manner that history speaks of the perpetrators of the Boston tea party.
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I actually think both you and online biker have valid points, there are things about the riot that I understand like burning down the police station. Seems like a crazy thing to say but if they feel like the police are killing them and nothing is being done about it, then I understand going after the building that represents the police as means of sending a message. What I don't understand is the looting and burning of stores who don't have anything to do with it, it does seem like it's just an excuse to loot and commit crimes.
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(May 31, 2020 at 5:37 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: What I don't understand is the looting and burning of stores who don't have anything to do with it, it does seem like it's just an excuse to loot and commit crimes.
Happens in just about every riot, even "We just won the Stanley Cup!" riots. The aim is to loot and pillage. Sadly, the damage is done in their own neighborhoods, meaning the wrong people get hurt. But damn, them new sneaks are fine!
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(May 31, 2020 at 5:37 am)Mr.wizard Wrote:
(May 30, 2020 at 8:13 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Nope, I see them as patriots, in the same manner that history speaks of the perpetrators of the Boston tea party.
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I actually think both you and online biker have valid points, there are things about the riot that I understand like burning down the police station. Seems like a crazy thing to say but if they feel like the police are killing them and nothing is being done about it, then I understand going after the building that represents the police as means of sending a message. What I don't understand is the looting and burning of stores who don't have anything to do with it, it does seem like it's just an excuse to loot and commit crimes.
Here's a thought 


Quote:Urban riots must now be recognized as durable social phenomena. They may be deplored, but they are there and should be understood. Urban riots are a special form of violence. They are not insurrections. The rioters are not seeking to seize territory or to attain control of institutions. They are mainly intended to shock the white community. They are a distorted form of social protest. The looting which is their principal feature serves many functions. It enables the most enraged and deprived Negro to take hold of consumer goods with the ease the white man does by using his purse. Often the Negro does not even want what he takes; he wants the experience of taking. But most of all, alienated from society and knowing that this society cherishes property above people, he is shocking it by abusing property rights. There are thus elements of emotional catharsis in the violent act. This may explain why most cities in which riots have occurred have not had a repetition, even though the causative conditions remain. It is also noteworthy that the amount of physical harm done to white people other than police is infinitesimal and in Detroit whites and Negroes looted in unity.
A profound judgment of today’s riots was expressed by Victor Hugo a century ago. He said, ‘If a soul is left in the darkness, sins will be committed. The guilty one is not he who commits the sin, but he who causes the darkness.’
The policymakers of the white society have caused the darkness; they create discrimination; they structured slums; and they perpetuate unemployment, ignorance and poverty. It is incontestable and deplorable that Negroes have committed crimes; but they are derivative crimes. They are born of the greater crimes of the white society. When we ask Negroes to abide by the law, let us also demand that the white man abide by law in the ghettos. Day-in and day-out he violates welfare laws to deprive the poor of their meager allotments; he flagrantly violates building codes and regulations; his police make a mockery of law; and he violates laws on equal employment and education and the provisions for civic services. The slums are the handiwork of a vicious system of the white society; Negroes live in them but do not make them any more than a prisoner makes a prison. Let us say boldly that if the violations of law by the white man in the slums over the years were calculated and compared with the law-breaking of a few days of riots, the hardened criminal would be the white man. These are often difficult things to say but I have come to see more and more that it is necessary to utter the truth in order to deal with the great problems that we face in our society.


Martin Luther King Jr
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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So infecting each other with corona, damaging your own community, is just for shock jock status? Seems like all the outrage and acting out weakens the very people that should be protected. If the problem is systemic why not direct the ire at the system and infect and shock Rich white political neighborhoods? Seems like the looters are actually doing the thinning of the heard agenda for the 1%?
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

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The real stupidity is these twats claim they are "protesting to affect change"....

Uh huh.... Real impressive.


That's what they said in Detroit in 1967 just before they burned the motherfucker down.. It's been a shithole ever since and the same problems of racism and poverty still exist.


Try something else guys - this shit doesn't work.
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(May 31, 2020 at 7:04 am)tackattack Wrote: So infecting each other with corona, damaging your own community, is just for shock jock status? Seems like all the outrage and acting out weakens the very people that should be protected. If the problem is systemic why not direct the ire at the system and infect and shock    Rich white political neighborhoods? Seems like the looters are actually doing the thinning of the heard agenda for the 1%?
I think you missed MLK's point

Quote:The real stupidity is these twats claim they are "protesting to affect change"....

Uh huh.... Real impressive.


That's what they said in Detroit in 1967 just before they burned the motherfucker down.. It's been a shithole ever since and the same problems of racism and poverty still exist.


Try something else guys - this shit doesn't work.
Well i don't see your kind coming up with anything ... So maybe you shouldn't talk
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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(May 31, 2020 at 7:40 am)SUNGULA Wrote:
(May 31, 2020 at 7:04 am)tackattack Wrote: So infecting each other with corona, damaging your own community, is just for shock jock status? Seems like all the outrage and acting out weakens the very people that should be protected. If the problem is systemic why not direct the ire at the system and infect and shock    Rich white political neighborhoods? Seems like the looters are actually doing the thinning of the heard agenda for the 1%?
I think you missed MLK's point

Quote:The real stupidity is these twats claim they are "protesting to affect change"....

Uh huh.... Real impressive.


That's what they said in Detroit in 1967 just before they burned the motherfucker down.. It's been a shithole ever since and the same problems of racism and poverty still exist.


Try something else guys - this shit doesn't work.
Well i don't see your kind coming up with anything ... So maybe you shouldn't talk

*Your kind*?

What kind is that?
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It's "two of each kind". Except dinosaurs.
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(May 31, 2020 at 7:40 am)SUNGULA Wrote:
(May 31, 2020 at 7:04 am)tackattack Wrote: So infecting each other with corona, damaging your own community, is just for shock jock status? Seems like all the outrage and acting out weakens the very people that should be protected. If the problem is systemic why not direct the ire at the system and infect and shock    Rich white political neighborhoods? Seems like the looters are actually doing the thinning of the heard agenda for the 1%?
I think you missed MLK's point

Quote:The real stupidity is these twats claim they are "protesting to affect change"....

Uh huh.... Real impressive.


That's what they said in Detroit in 1967 just before they burned the motherfucker down.. It's been a shithole ever since and the same problems of racism and poverty still exist.


Try something else guys - this shit doesn't work.
Well i don't see your kind coming up with anything ... So maybe you shouldn't talk

Don't you have to acknowledge his point though? This isn't the first riot we have seen and yet we still have these problems, at some point don't you have to weigh the destruction versus the impact? Not to say that it can't ever be effective but in terms of police brutality on minorities it hasn't really been all that effective.
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@Huggy Bear

You might want to take a closer look at who's on the ground in these cities. Including the loads of white boys being bussed in to "help".

BLM is not "us"--Catch my drift? Whatever they might have been before, they sold out years ago. 
And where they go, Antifa follows.
They're both bankrolled by George Soros and other white radical Leftists; and the safety and betterment of black people is not on their agenda.

Food for thought.
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