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How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 22, 2021 at 11:24 am
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You look in the mirror and tell yourself, "I am an atheist".
You stand in front of people and tell them, "I am an atheist".
It doesn't take any skill or talent to do that (any moron can do it) so how do you actually prove it's true?
Do you have a scientific method of proving to everybody you're an atheist?
Do you cross your fingers and hope for the best when you tell everybody you're an atheist?
Do you get out a book which proves you're an atheist?
Do you beg everybody to have faith in you and to believe in you when you tell them you're an atheist?
Do you use violence to make people believe you're an atheist?
Or, do you simply prove you're an atheist by proving to everybody you're a moron because any moron can call themselves an atheist?
But then again, somebody smart can pretend to be atheist dumb.
So how do you prove you're an atheist?
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 22, 2021 at 11:26 am
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Do you think that you know what you do or don't believe? I ask, because that's all the skill or talent being an atheist or a theist takes.
If you think that you know what you believe, it's likely that other people are similarly equipped, and each of you is answering a relatively simple question about yourselves, isn't it?
-and yes, there actually are scientific ways of determining whether a person is likely to respond to a survey about belief in gods in a specific way. What's interesting about that, I think, isn't so much that people who don't believe in gods tend to answer given questions about other things in a specific way, but those sets of respondents who answer questions much as the other group might.
There are, apparently, alot of theists who think exactly like atheists, and vv.
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 22, 2021 at 11:31 am
What does it matter?
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 22, 2021 at 11:33 am
I'm thrilled that this thread was tagged serious.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 22, 2021 at 11:33 am
(March 22, 2021 at 11:26 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Do you think that you know what you do or don't believe? I ask, because that's all the skill or talent being an atheist or a theist takes.
If you think that you know what you believe, it's likely that other people are similarly equipped, and each of you is answering a relatively simple question about yourselves, isn't it?
If everybody stopped mentioning atheism it wouldn't exist.
If everybody stop mentioning the sun it would still exist.
Do you see the difference between reality and fiction?
The sun doesn't have a big sign which reads, "I am an atheist" but you do.
What does that sign you're holding up actually prove if anybody can do it?
Surely, it proves you're either an actor or mental.
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 22, 2021 at 11:53 am
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(March 22, 2021 at 11:33 am)Walter99 Wrote: (March 22, 2021 at 11:26 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Do you think that you know what you do or don't believe? I ask, because that's all the skill or talent being an atheist or a theist takes.
If you think that you know what you believe, it's likely that other people are similarly equipped, and each of you is answering a relatively simple question about yourselves, isn't it?
If everybody stopped mentioning atheism it wouldn't exist.
If everybody stop mentioning the sun it would still exist.
Do you see the difference between reality and fiction?
The sun doesn't have a big sign which reads, "I am an atheist" but you do.
What does that sign you're holding up actually prove if anybody can do it?
Surely, it proves you're either an actor or mental.
All great questions, but I didn't find any clarity about whether or how you knew what you believed, or the level of difficulty you assign to the task when you consider your own experience?
At any rate - your questions.
I like to think that I see the difference between reality and fiction, sure. You?
My being an atheist doesn't prove anything. IDK if anybody could do it..you'd think that theists would have a hard time being atheists. Hard(er), at least.
A person telling you that they're an atheist is a person telling you that they don't believe in gods. Kind of brings us right back around to the initial question. If you told me what you believed, I'd be inclined to believe that you believed it. I suspect that you're a competent person who has valid comments on what you do and don't believe. I think that it would be impossible for you to get every comment about what you do and don't believe 100% wrong 100% of the time.
Do you view yourself that way, and when you apprehend others, do you imagine that they're much like you in this regard? What do you think it would (or should?) take for a person to demonstrate to you that they are, in fact, an atheist? It would be fun to see a list.
(March 22, 2021 at 11:33 am)brewer Wrote: I'm thrilled that this thread was tagged serious.
That was all it was ever going to be used for. It' still a great civility pre-bump, I think.
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 22, 2021 at 12:01 pm
(March 22, 2021 at 11:33 am)Walter99 Wrote: (March 22, 2021 at 11:26 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Do you think that you know what you do or don't believe? I ask, because that's all the skill or talent being an atheist or a theist takes.
If you think that you know what you believe, it's likely that other people are similarly equipped, and each of you is answering a relatively simple question about yourselves, isn't it?
If everybody stopped mentioning atheism it wouldn't exist.
If everybody stop mentioning the sun it would still exist.
Do you see the difference between reality and fiction?
The sun doesn't have a big sign which reads, "I am an atheist" but you do.
What does that sign you're holding up actually prove if anybody can do it?
Surely, it proves you're either an actor or mental.
“Serious,” huh?
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 22, 2021 at 12:03 pm
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Quote:My being an atheist doesn't prove anything.
You're getting ahead of yourself.
You haven't proven you're an atheist which is the whole point of my post.
I can stand in front of a mirror and tell myself I'm a Ford Fiesta but it doesn't mean I am one or are you saying it does?
Let's get the horse and cart the right way around by first proving you're an atheist.
Quote:“Serious,” huh?
I find it ironic that you have religious views even though you call yourself an atheist which you say is not a religion.
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 22, 2021 at 12:10 pm
(March 22, 2021 at 12:03 pm)Walter99 Wrote: You're getting ahead of yourself.
You haven't proven you're an atheist which is the whole point of my post.
I can stand in front of a mirror and tell myself I'm a Ford Fiesta but it doesn't mean I am one or are you saying it does?
Let's get the horse and cart the right way around by first proving you're an atheist.
Well, sure...that's exactly why I asked you for a list. Should be a pretty simple q and a.
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 22, 2021 at 12:16 pm
(March 22, 2021 at 12:03 pm)Walter99 Wrote: Quote:My being an atheist doesn't prove anything.
You're getting ahead of yourself.
You haven't proven you're an atheist which is the whole point of my post.
I can stand in front of a mirror and tell myself I'm a Ford Fiesta but it doesn't mean I am one or are you saying it does?
Let's get the horse and cart the right way around by first proving you're an atheist.
Quote:“Serious,” huh?
I find it ironic that you have religious views even though you call yourself an atheist which you say is not a religion.
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