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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 22, 2021 at 2:48 pm
(March 22, 2021 at 2:35 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: How do I prove I don't like golf?
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 22, 2021 at 2:54 pm
How would I go about proving that I don't hold certain beliefs ?
My actions and behaviors are a vital clue.
I accept reality and require evidence for any beliefs that I do hold.
If there isn't any evidence for a certain belief, I will not hold it.
I suppose the proof that I don't believe that I'm actually 10 feet tall, would be me saying that I accept independent measurements of my height as the truth of reality.
I could take a polygraph test.
If all of my answers under a polygraph were consistent with reality, then you could either accept that I am telling the truth or that secretly in my own mind, I don't accept reality as it's presented to me through my senses.
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 23, 2021 at 12:02 am
(March 22, 2021 at 11:24 am)Walter99 Wrote: So how do you prove you're an atheist?
The same way you prove that you don't believe in Santa Claus.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 23, 2021 at 1:15 am
They always crawl from the woodwork when I'm sleeping.
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 23, 2021 at 1:34 am
(March 23, 2021 at 1:15 am)Eleven Wrote: They always crawl from the woodwork when I'm sleeping.
Then stop bloody sleeping!
To be honest, it was very early morning for me but I couldn't sleep.
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 23, 2021 at 8:10 am
Now we know who to blame, and ofc it turned out to be Eleven.
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 23, 2021 at 10:50 am
(March 22, 2021 at 2:35 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: How do I prove I don't like golf?
The true headscratchers of our time.
I find it ironic that what was supposed to be a "gotcha" question actually turns out to say more about Walter99's beliefs. Namely that they need someone else to tell them what they believe in order to confirm it. At least, that's the implication I got from this; if I can't prove that I believe what I believe, then the answer must be I need authority to define me for me. Which says all kinds of things about what we're really defining as faith and the importance of obedience versus free will.
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 23, 2021 at 2:50 pm
Also... why would I need to prove my beliefs (or lack of them) to anyone?
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RE: How do you prove to everybody including yourself you're an atheist?
March 23, 2021 at 2:57 pm
I dont care if people believe I'm an atheist or not UNLESS they try to tell me what I do believe.
Several Theists have tried to do that. They have defined my atheism into something they could argue against and have always got it wrong.
You hate god is one.
You want to worship satan.
You just want to sin.
No one really doesnt believe in a god they always believe in something.
All of those are wrong.
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