Grand Rapids Mi Shooting

[onlinebiker]

This one is all over the local news.

Protestors are calling it an execution.

Facts - White male cop, black male motorist. Black man ends up shot in the head.

Is that an execution?

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Fact - the motorist was pulled over for having a license plate that did not belong on that car. (unknown why)
If the cop was going to execute the motorist - this would be the time.

Fact - upon being pulled over - the motorist got out of the car. (unknown why)
This would also be a good time, if you have execution in mind.

Fact - after failing to turn over license, registration and insurance paperwork (as required by Michigan law) - the cop attempts to cuff and detain the motorist.
Not such a great time for an execution, but still......

Fact - motorist takes off running.
Can you execute a running target?

Fact - cop catches motorist - and struggle ensues.
Execution looking pretty dicey at this point.

Fact - cop attempts to use non-lethal force - draws taser. Struggle ensues over taser.
Things really looking bad for an execution here.

Fact - cop draws weapon. It appears to me (this part is strictly opinion - as I do not have access to the original videos and good viewing equipment) that the cop drew the gun with his finger in the trigger. A no - no. This is how guns "just went off".
Execution is now sort of a moot point.

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My point - execution is a deliberate act. Pre-meditated and carefully carried out.

This was a goat fuck - that was partially the responsibility of the person who got shot.

Sad shit. Should not have happened.

But not an execution.

[TaraJo]

Great. Based on what you've said, there's a cop who was justified in reasonably using lethal force.

Meanwhile, over and over again, we have cases where young black men are killed needlessly by police while complying with said police.

Comply with cops, get killed; resist cops, get killed. They can't win.

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

Not my country... but... aren't police supposed to be 'Up holders' of the law?

Still..... maybe they need to review their budget to allow for paired officers?

Condolences to all involved.

[The Grand Nudger]

That'd just be two sets of boots on the back of your neck.

[onlinebiker]

Great.  Based on what you've said, there's a cop who was justified in reasonably using lethal force.  

Meanwhile, over and over again, we have cases where young black men are killed needlessly by police while complying with said police.

Comply with cops, get killed; resist cops, get killed.  They can't win.

Don't try stuffing words in my mouth honey....

I most certainly did NOT say he used reasonably applied lethal force.

I said it was NOT an execution.

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And quit with equivocation. This is this case. It's not the last case.

It never is.

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At work.

 Not my country... but... aren't police supposed to be 'Up holders' of the law?

 Still..... maybe they need to review their budget to allow for paired officers?

 Condolences to all involved.

How is he not upholding the law?

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Didn't you hear? De-funding the police is all the rage here. It will make things SOOOO much better....

[HappySkeptic]

I most certainly did NOT say he used reasonably applied lethal force.

I said it was NOT an execution.

Most people don't care about truth.  They only care about fighting for their "side".

[Angrboda]

This one is all over the local news.

Protestors are calling it an execution.

Facts - White male cop, black male motorist. Black man ends up shot in the head.

Is that an execution?

[...]

My point - execution is a deliberate act. Pre-meditated and carefully carried out.

This was a goat fuck - that was partially the responsibility of the person who got shot.

Sad shit. Should not have happened.

But not an execution.

Who has said that it was an execution?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

This one is all over the local news.

Protestors are calling it an execution.

Facts - White male cop, black male motorist. Black man ends up shot in the head.

Is that an execution?

[...]

My point - execution is a deliberate act. Pre-meditated and carefully carried out.

This was a goat fuck - that was partially the responsibility of the person who got shot.

Sad shit. Should not have happened.

But not an execution.

Who has said that it was an execution?

I skimmed article from four different news sources, and I didn’t find any reporting of protestors calling this an execution (not saying no one has, just that I didn’t find it). Some of them are using terms like ‘murderer’ and ‘killer cop’, but that’s not remotely the same thing.

Boru

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

 Not my country... but... aren't police supposed to be 'Up holders' of the law?

 Still..... maybe they need to review their budget to allow for paired officers?

 Condolences to all involved.

How is he not upholding the law?

....

Didn't you hear? De-funding the police is all the rage here. It will make things SOOOO much better....

Oh, my bad. Here I thought Judge Dredd was an English dark humour/sarcastic take on American behaviour?

(I reply facetiously)

As in police 'Arrest' people. Not police 'eliminate' people.

Yah my understanding of the whole 'Defund' issue was "Why do police need 'Tanks'* for their day to day operations? Maybe we should reveiw their spending budget?"

But again, it's not my country's ills being discussed here.

But you did choose to bring your county's laundry to an open forum.

So... uhm. You do you Boo.



*Unless it's for a Japanese Manga Aka, "Dominion. Tank police"

[The Architect Of Fate]

The OP's first post rests on a number of faulty assumptions  

1. Assumes he wanted to execute him there at the scene instead of hauling him off to somewhere else so he can "die in custody"

2. Assumes the cop wasn't trying to invent a justification to shoot "see he ran so I had to shoot him"

3. Assumes the cop wasn't overconfident and believed he had an easy victim but things didn't go as planned.

4. You can execute someone who's running if you allow them to run before shooting them.

And on the subject of Defunding the police. It's barely been implemented and would in fact make it more sensible to have cops working in groups. But hey the police need a pentagon-sized budget to harass homeless people.