THE Gun Thread

[Brian37]

No. 

I would support a " good judgement" test - if such a test could foresee all possible future scenarios.

Sadly - nobody has a working crystal ball.

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I do support PAST behavior as a test of gun ownership.

Once you prove you are capable of being an idiot - you should be banned for life from guns...

Since you acknowledge that no testing will be able to identify all dumbasses, what objection -- if any -- do you have for mandating smart guns going forward?

I am so sick of their excuse, "Bad things will happen, so lets do nothing at all."

[Brian37]

Them, "People run red lights so lets not have traffic lights at all." That is how fucked up their logic is.

[Ahriman]

Nah that's bullshit, everyone should own guns.

It says a lot about our Moderators and their integrity and tolerance that they have not (yet) banned you.

Why would they ban me for disagreeing with someone?

[Jehanne]

It says a lot about our Moderators and their integrity and tolerance that they have not (yet) banned you.

Why would they ban me for disagreeing with someone?

It's more than that -- you sometimes come across as an obnoxious, insincere sidekick.

[Ahriman]

Why would they ban me for disagreeing with someone?

It's more than that -- you sometimes come across as an obnoxious, insincere sidekick.

Well I can't help that. But I really do think everyone should be armed.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Nah that's bullshit, everyone should own guns.

One thing I love to do to the worshipers is to act like I am clinically insane, then I ask them if I should be allowed to own a firearm. Of course they say "No, you should not be allowed". Then I remind them that I have no criminal record and could go out and buy a firearm legally right now.

‘Act’?

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

-Enforce the 2nd Amendment from an originalist viewpoint.

-Allow private ownership of firearms only after initial safety/proficiency training of six months.

-Allow private ownership of firearms only after a background check, psychological screening, and affidavits from at least three people that the applicant is a person of good character.

-All firearms licenses to be reviewed every second year, and revocable for 1) felonies committed in the interim 2) failure to obtain ongoing safety/proficiency training, or 3) failure to pass a psychological screening.

-Make transporting a loaded firearm a felony.

-Make failure to properly secure a firearm a felony.

-Phasers, Klingon disruptor pistols and Kill-O-Zap blasters are exempt from all of the above.

Boru

[onlinebiker]

No. 

I would support a " good judgement" test - if such a test could foresee all possible future scenarios.

Sadly - nobody has a working crystal ball.

...

I do support PAST behavior as a test of gun ownership.

Once you prove you are capable of being an idiot - you should be banned for life from guns...

Since you acknowledge that no testing will be able to identify all dumbasses, what objection -- if any -- do you have for mandating smart guns going forward?

Several reasons.

1. I can' t see forcing people to rely on vaporware.
    " smart guns" that can discriminate a legitimate 
    firearm user do not exist - on a high enough.                    reliability. When you see police and military being issued such weapons then it will be a different story.

2. Anything built in can be built out. Criminals and people with bad intent are always going to be able to do a work- around. As usual the gun legislation only affects the law abiding citizen - who is not the problem in the first place.

3. There are already more guns than people - in the USA. Anyone who wants a gun for ill intent will have no problem buying a "dumb gun". All you are doing is adding an unnecessary expense to new guns. 

4. Many mass shooters bought firearms legally - shortly prior to the shooting. How would " smart gun" technology stop ANYONE from using a gun illegally if it is purchased for that purpose???

[onlinebiker]

Originalist view?

Uh... It is debateable what that is.

The 2008 SCOTUS ruling says that your view is incorrect.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Originalist view?

Uh... It is debateable what that is.

The 2008 SCOTUS ruling says that your view is incorrect.

The ‘well regulated militia’ bit is pretty clear.

Fuck SCOTUS.

Boru