Russia and Ukraine

[arewethereyet]

Nope, Cuba not on my Bel Conspiracy BINGO card.

[The Grand Nudger]

Perhaps people could come back down to reality if they understood that the us only accidentally and begrudgingly ended up on the right side of this one - and only for now-, years later, because it senses the opportunity to do evil.

See, america is the great satan, and you don't even have to carry water to say it!

[Thumpalumpacus]

They've been looting the city for weeks.  For those unschooled in russian gobbledygook, this is "preparing the city for urban combat".  You know, gotta remove all the double pane insulated windows and ship them to a safe place until the battle is over.  The toilets aren't nazis, why should they suffer?  Then..there's the sweet...sweet washing machines.  No washing machine left behind.

Those chips ain't gonna import themselves.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Nope, Cuba not on my Bel Conspiracy BINGO card.

I've been holding out for "secret bombing of Cambodia" for several days now. As soon as that comes up, the rest of yas are assed-out!

[The Grand Nudger]

They've been looting the city for weeks.  For those unschooled in russian gobbledygook, this is "preparing the city for urban combat".  You know, gotta remove all the double pane insulated windows and ship them to a safe place until the battle is over.  The toilets aren't nazis, why should they suffer?  Then..there's the sweet...sweet washing machines.  No washing machine left behind.

Those chips ain't gonna import themselves.

Yup, it sounds ridiculous until you realize that they're not -just- looting.  They need those chips for their war effort.  Shit, they've been stealing traffic cams in border countries, too, for the same reason. Why do they get into firefights with each other over washing machines? Because a unit that can reliably bring in the chips might not be used for recon by fire - a death sentence.

Meanwhile, russia has suffered massive casualties (and we can assume ukraine has, as well) in a failed general push along the bahkmut artillery lines. So much for those new recruits, ground into meat.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Those chips ain't gonna import themselves.

Yup, it sounds ridiculous until you realize that they're not -just- looting.  They need those chips for their war effort.  Shit, they've been stealing traffic cams in border countries, too, for the same reason.  Why do they get into firefights with each other over washing machines?  Because a unit that can reliably bring in the chips might not be used for recon by fire - a death sentence.

Meanwhile, russia has suffered massive casualties (and we can assume ukraine has, as well) in a failed general push along the bahkmut artillery lines. So much for those new recruits, ground into meat.

There are unconfirmed reports - which would not surprise me if they turned out to be true - that the recent Russian conscripts are referring to themselves as ‘tseli’.

It means ‘targets’.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

That's what they are. That's what they've been (poorly) equipped for. The ukranian tdf is much the same, for different reasons. The tdf rallies for the ukranian callups because they've been given the tools of success and they've used them to great effect, because they aren't expected to simply die hiding in a "fortified" position and losing their very expensive gear in the process. The russians, for their part, know that the important troops were already shredded and they expect exactly what they've been called up to be used for. Thing is, even if it weren't true, which it is, troops would still feel that way and communicate with each other that way. There are no fantasists on a firing line. Even the most uneducated groundpounders...i think...would surprise people with their insight, in that event, if "people"..rather than joes, were ever there to hear it. When you have orders that end in your death you get a rare sort of clarity. You'll still do it, you wouldn't still be there if you wouldn't, but you know what you're doing...at that point.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Meanwhile, russia has suffered massive casualties (and we can assume ukraine has, as well) in a failed general push along the bahkmut artillery lines. So much for those new recruits, ground into meat.

I've seen some of the video, it's horrific. Meanwhile, ISW reports that those Russian lives were thrown away because they couldn't or wouldn't wait to assemble a force capable of executing the mission, instead throwing their troops away in penny-packets, as the Brits say.

Also meanwhile, the Russians are evacuating Kherson and the west bank of the Dneipr River, with the exception of defensive positions NW of that city. It looks to me like they finally grew a couple of neurons and realized you need good troops to mount an effective rearguard -- they have moved airborne troops into those defensive spots. But you know as well as I do what that means -- those airborne troops are now relying upon green troops on the other side of the river to secure their flanks and supply lines to Sevastopol.

I suspect it's only a matter of time before the Ukrainians launch a thrust to Kerch and well and truly fuck the southern Russian front.

[Leonardo17]

Those chips ain't gonna import themselves.

Yup, it sounds ridiculous until you realize that they're not -just- looting.  They need those chips for their war effort.  Shit, they've been stealing traffic cams in border countries, too, for the same reason.  Why do they get into firefights with each other over washing machines?  Because a unit that can reliably bring in the chips might not be used for recon by fire - a death sentence.

Meanwhile, russia has suffered massive casualties (and we can assume ukraine has, as well) in a failed general push along the bahkmut artillery lines. So much for those new recruits, ground into meat.

I’ve heard that some Russian soldier who are from region like Siberia are so poor that even things like an old wash machine or a used refrigerator is of value to them and that they will plunder these goods to send them to their families in those remote regions.

[Leonardo17]

Meanwhile, russia has suffered massive casualties (and we can assume ukraine has, as well) in a failed general push along the bahkmut artillery lines. So much for those new recruits, ground into meat.

I've seen some of the video, it's horrific. Meanwhile, ISW reports that those Russian lives were thrown away because they couldn't or wouldn't wait to assemble a force capable of executing the mission, instead throwing their troops away in penny-packets, as the Brits say.

Also meanwhile, the Russians are evacuating Kherson and the west bank of the Dneipr River, the the exception of defensive positions NW of that city. It looks to me like they finally grew a couple of neurons and realized you need good troops to mount an effective rearguard -- they have moved airborne troops into those defensive spots. But you know as well as I do what that means -- those airborne troops are now relying upon green troops on the other side of the river to secure their flanks and supply lines to Sevastopol.

I suspect it's only a matter of time before the Ukrainians launch a thrust to Kerch and well and truly fuck the southern Russian front.

I’ve heard that Ukrainian Generals are still not underestimating them. The whole thing might be a trap. And Russians still have an advantage of numbers and artillery. Ukraine is therefore asking for more modern artillery and better air defense systems.
 
Also the toll on civilians is beginning to be felt. So although everyone wants to see an end to this conflict as soon as possible. It’s still a relatively strong army they are facing.