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The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.
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#121
RE: The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.
January 17, 2023 at 5:23 am
So far your whole argument is built on a misunderstanding of evolution. A god of the gaps and a thought experiment that has no basis in reality.
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RE: The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.
January 17, 2023 at 5:30 am
(January 17, 2023 at 5:13 am)Helios Wrote:
Quote:AI seems to be good at pattern recognition without subjective experience
Not as good as a human
https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...umans-can/

Quote:and how have you determined IA don't have subjective experiences are you an AI?
A great question that materialistic atheists should answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_other_minds
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#123
RE: The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.
January 17, 2023 at 5:31 am (This post was last modified: January 17, 2023 at 5:33 am by Dmitry1983.)
(January 17, 2023 at 5:13 am)Helios Wrote:
Quote:The claim was that humans can function without fingers.
And we could have but they are a beneficial thing to have.

If we could then we wouldn't really need fingers.
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#124
RE: The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.
January 17, 2023 at 5:32 am
(January 17, 2023 at 5:14 am)Helios Wrote:
(January 17, 2023 at 5:10 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindsight
And this refutes nothing. 

It refutes the claim that humans need subjective experience to perform complex actions.
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RE: The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.
January 17, 2023 at 5:35 am (This post was last modified: January 17, 2023 at 5:38 am by The Architect Of Fate.)
(January 17, 2023 at 5:30 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(January 17, 2023 at 5:13 am)Helios Wrote: Not as good as a human
https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...umans-can/

Quote:and how have you determined IA don't have subjective experiences are you an AI?
A great question that materialistic atheists should answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_other_minds
Neither of these articles refutes anything. Even if it were true the they can recognize it better that doesn't mean we can't do it sufficiently and no it's not a question for materialistic atheists because it's not a problem for materialistic atheists. So fail on both fronts.
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#126
RE: The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.
January 17, 2023 at 5:35 am
(January 17, 2023 at 5:32 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(January 17, 2023 at 5:14 am)Helios Wrote: And this refutes nothing. 

It refutes the claim that humans need subjective experience to perform complex actions.
No it doesn't
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#127
RE: The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.
January 17, 2023 at 5:36 am
(January 17, 2023 at 5:31 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(January 17, 2023 at 5:13 am)Helios Wrote: And we could have but they are a beneficial thing to have.

If we could then we wouldn't really need fingers.
Not needing them doesn't them not useful
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#128
RE: The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.
January 17, 2023 at 5:41 am
So again total failure on your silly attempt to push "Evolution Skepticism(Denialism)" Hehe
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#129
RE: The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.
January 17, 2023 at 5:51 am
Clearly, this thread stopped going anywhere a long time ago.
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#130
RE: The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.
January 17, 2023 at 5:54 am
(January 17, 2023 at 5:30 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(January 17, 2023 at 5:13 am)Helios Wrote: Not as good as a human
https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...umans-can/

Quote:and how have you determined IA don't have subjective experiences are you an AI?
A great question that materialistic atheists should answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_other_minds

You need to become better at reading the links you post. From the article (bold mine):

Quote:Problem of other minds maintains that no matter how sophisticated someone's behavior is, behavior on its own does not guarantee the presence of thought. However, it is often disregarded by most philosophers as outdated. Behavior is recognized to occur due to a number of processes within the brain quelling much of the debate on this problem.

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