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Russia and Ukraine
RE: Russia and Ukraine
Quote:Ever since Jimmy Carter started funding and training the Mujahideen, the US has had an off-again-on-again relationship with the extremist Muslim groups. Carter's purpose was to use them in Afghanistan to weaken Russia -- a long-term goal. At the time it was said that they wanted to make Afghanistan "Russia's Vietnam."
Just totally overlook the fact Russia invaded Afghanistan for the purpose of territorial expansion (like there doing in Ukraine)..... Dodgy
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Quote:The US doesn't prioritize groups that value women's rights or free societies. The US supports groups that help to weaken America's rivals.
It does it a heck of a lot more than Russia does. How many Gay concentration camps are there in modern America?
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Quote:Well, America invaded the country, spend a trillion dollars and ruined millions of lives in order to defeat the Taliban. 

And as soon as America left the country the Taliban took over. 

So how do you describe this, if not as a gigantic failure?
Not as big a failure as Russia invading Ukraine. Russia has lost more in 1 year than America did in over 20 years and at least America made some progress on human rights in Afganistan Russia has contributed nothing to Ukraine.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(February 21, 2023 at 11:28 pm)Helios Wrote:
Quote:Ever since Jimmy Carter started funding and training the Mujahideen, the US has had an off-again-on-again relationship with the extremist Muslim groups. Carter's purpose was to use them in Afghanistan to weaken Russia -- a long-term goal. At the time it was said that they wanted to make Afghanistan "Russia's Vietnam."
Just totally overlook the fact Russia invaded Afghanistan for the purpose of territorial expansion (like there doing in Ukraine)..... Dodgy

Yeah, i wondered as well why Mujahideen existed in the first place. Then i found out CCCP invaded Afghanistan.
I was SHOCKED!!!!

What i have NOT found out yet is: How the US was responsible for CCCPs invasion in the first place. Probably a plot to strenghten pruducers of the Stinger missiles.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Somebody call the fucking onion.

"Jimmie War Mongering Carters ISIS Nazis Reverse Invade Russia"
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
As much fun as those little trips into fantasyland can be, back in mere reality russia may be at or near culmination with it's purported spring offensive, prigozhin is accusing the russian mod and shogui of treason, russian media is apoplectic over their failure to assassinate Handsome Joe, and ukraine launched a series a long range attacks centered on mariupol. Crimean beach party, summer 2023.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(February 22, 2023 at 8:40 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: As much fun as those little trips into fantasyland can be, back in mere reality russia may be at or near culmination with it's purported spring offensive, prigozhin is accusing the russian mod and shogui of treason, russian media is apoplectic over their failure to assassinate Handsome Joe, and ukraine launched a series a long range attacks centered on mariupol.  Crimean beach party, summer 2023.

hey, I heard about the Mariupol attack but can't find any solid source. You got anything you can put up?

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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Afghanistan was already a Soviet puppet regime, they invaded because the pro-Soviet government they installed after assassinating Hafizullah Amin, the General Secretary of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (which he founded after the Saur Revolution of 1978, which he organized, that executed the then-president of Afghanistan, Mohammad Daoud Khan) was facing open rebellion in much of the country. The occupation was harsh (maybe 2 million Afghanis dead over the course of the war), but I think the people of Afghanistan might have been better off in the long run under communist rule than under the Taliban, and it was probably a mistake for the USA to support the mujahideen.

Hindsight is 20/20 though, at the time we were worried about Soviet expansion, and though it wasn't a suprise to the intelligence community, we couldnt know the Soviet Union would collapse just 12 years after the invasion.
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https://english.nv.ua/nation/11-explosio...05965.html
Quote:City Hall reported that the first explosion in Mariupol occurred at 10:33 p.m. It said that after the explosions, there were problems with power and communications in the Central and Left Bank districts of the city.

Later, mayor’s advisor Petro Andriushchenko reported that a Russian ammunition warehouse in the vicinity of the city’s airport and a Russian military base in the Illich Iron and Steel works had been hit. There were reports of secondary explosions, while some of the other explosions may have been the operation of Russian air defenses.

Andriushchenko reported another explosion in the city on the morning of Feb. 22, with locals saying on social media that the blast “set off car alarms” and “shook the curtains.”
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
-and if you're up for some firms data scrying....wtf is going down in between se donetsk and Rostov?
https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map....1,48.4,7z

(see the taganrov yacht club and nearby storage just flat out melting, lit up like donetsk, luhansk..and fucking bahkmut, apparently...lol..?)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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